Guest guest Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 All, " When you believe in things that you don't understand, then you suffer. " -- Stevie Wonder, Superstition " One should first be versed in The Great Learning (Da Xue) to achieve the guiding principles, for the substance of the other classical works are mingled in it. One must first acquire the thorough understanding of the Great Learning and proceed to study the other classical works. Only then can he realize that what they deal with are ways to study the phenomena of nature to acquire knowledge, to correct one's attitude and make one's will sincere, to cultivate oneself, to put one's family in order, to rule the country and to bring peace to the world. " -- Zhu Xi, Categorical Analects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 Even Zhu Xi was wrong at times. He didn't quite understand Buddhism, and in particular, Chan thought. He also claimed the Surangama Sutra as a false teaching. So in the end, we just have humans who as fallible. Zhu Shouli - kenrose2008 Tuesday, July 15, 2003 4:02 PM Quotes for the day All,"When you believe in things that you don't understand,then you suffer."-- Stevie Wonder, Superstition"One should first be versed in The Great Learning(Da Xue) to achieve the guiding principles, for thesubstance of the other classical works are mingledin it. One must first acquire the thorough understandingof the Great Learning and proceed to study theother classical works. Only then can he realizethat what they deal with are ways to study thephenomena of nature to acquire knowledge, to correctone's attitude and make one's will sincere, to cultivateoneself, to put one's family in order, to rule the countryand to bring peace to the world."-- Zhu Xi, Categorical AnalectsChinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 > Even Zhu Xi was wrong at times. He didn't quite understand Buddhism, and in particular, Chan thought. He also claimed the Surangama Sutra as a false teaching. So in the end, we just have humans who as fallible. > > Zhu Shouli Is it your contention then that Zhu Xi was wrong in his assessment of the importance of the Da Xue? No doubt that Zhu Xi was wrong about a great many things. It was Zhu Xi, at least in the traditional attribution, who popularized foot binding, transforming a Tang pleasantry into a horrid custom. But I just wonder if you disagree with the idea that the Da Xue is a pivotal text. And I hope you aren't suggesting that Stevie Wonder was ever wrong! Ken > > " One should first be versed in The Great Learning > (Da Xue) to achieve the guiding principles, for the > substance of the other classical works are mingled > in it. One must first acquire the thorough understanding > of the Great Learning and proceed to study the > other classical works. Only then can he realize > that what they deal with are ways to study the > phenomena of nature to acquire knowledge, to correct > one's attitude and make one's will sincere, to cultivate > oneself, to put one's family in order, to rule the country > and to bring peace to the world. " > > -- Zhu Xi, Categorical Analects > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 Hi Ken, If you are a Confucian, then studying the " Da Xue " is essential. Zhu Xi claimed he had the " mid seal " of Confucius. I do not think " Da Xue " is necessary for our generation. Robert Chu, L.Ac., QME chusauli > " kenrose2008 " <kenrose2008 > > > Re: Quotes for the day >Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:25:32 -0000 > _______________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > Even Zhu Xi was wrong at times. He didn't quite understand Buddhism, and in particular, Chan thought. He also claimed the Surangama Sutra as a false teaching. So in the end, we just have humans who as fallible. > > Zhu Shouli Is it your contention then that Zhu Xi was wrong in his assessment of the importance of the Da Xue? No doubt that Zhu Xi was wrong about a great many things. It was Zhu Xi, at least in the traditional attribution, who popularized foot binding, transforming a Tang pleasantry into a horrid custom. But I just wonder if you disagree with the idea that the Da Xue is a pivotal text. And I hope you aren't suggesting that Stevie Wonder was ever wrong! Ken > > " One should first be versed in The Great Learning > (Da Xue) to achieve the guiding principles, for the > substance of the other classical works are mingled > in it. One must first acquire the thorough understanding > of the Great Learning and proceed to study the > other classical works. Only then can he realize > that what they deal with are ways to study the > phenomena of nature to acquire knowledge, to correct > one's attitude and make one's will sincere, to cultivate > oneself, to put one's family in order, to rule the country > and to bring peace to the world. " > > -- Zhu Xi, Categorical Analects > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 BTW, Stevie Wonder is absolutely correct! Robert Chu, L.Ac., QME chusauli > " kenrose2008 " <kenrose2008 > > > Re: Quotes for the day >Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:25:32 -0000 > _______________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > Even Zhu Xi was wrong at times. He didn't quite understand Buddhism, and in particular, Chan thought. He also claimed the Surangama Sutra as a false teaching. So in the end, we just have humans who as fallible. > > Zhu Shouli Is it your contention then that Zhu Xi was wrong in his assessment of the importance of the Da Xue? No doubt that Zhu Xi was wrong about a great many things. It was Zhu Xi, at least in the traditional attribution, who popularized foot binding, transforming a Tang pleasantry into a horrid custom. But I just wonder if you disagree with the idea that the Da Xue is a pivotal text. And I hope you aren't suggesting that Stevie Wonder was ever wrong! Ken > > " One should first be versed in The Great Learning > (Da Xue) to achieve the guiding principles, for the > substance of the other classical works are mingled > in it. One must first acquire the thorough understanding > of the Great Learning and proceed to study the > other classical works. Only then can he realize > that what they deal with are ways to study the > phenomena of nature to acquire knowledge, to correct > one's attitude and make one's will sincere, to cultivate > oneself, to put one's family in order, to rule the country > and to bring peace to the world. " > > -- Zhu Xi, Categorical Analects > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 Robert, > > If you are a Confucian, then studying the " Da Xue " is essential. Zhu Xi > claimed he had the " mid seal " of Confucius. I do not think " Da Xue " is > necessary for our generation. Thanks for your response. I guess my question is not really so much aimed at whether or not the text itself is somehow necessary for our generation other than those members of our generation who want to understand the thinking and therefore the theorizing (including medical theorizing) of past generations. By the way, I don't understand the phrase " mid seal " . What does it mean? Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2003 Report Share Posted July 19, 2003 Mind Seal is a Buddhist term of passing on the correct thought or idea. - kenrose2008 Thursday, July 17, 2003 3:11 PM Re: Quotes for the day Robert,> > If you are a Confucian, then studying the "Da Xue" is essential. Zhu Xi > claimed he had the "mid seal" of Confucius. I do not think "Da Xue" is > necessary for our generation.Thanks for your response. I guess myquestion is not really so much aimedat whether or not the text itself issomehow necessary for our generationother than those members of our generationwho want to understand the thinkingand therefore the theorizing (includingmedical theorizing) of past generations.By the way, I don't understand the phrase"mid seal". What does it mean?KenChinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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