Guest guest Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 >>> , yehuda l frischman wrote: but we've got to have some better texts, ala Deadman et al "Manual of Acupuncture" or the wonderfully illustrated Seirin acupuncture atlas. >>> Yehuda: I agree. When I taught Point Theory II several years back (mostly as a review for myself) I switched the required text to Deadman. I found the point combinations especially insightful and helpful. They illustrate the various functions of the points and the dynamics of acupuncture protocols. Jim Ramholz<<< Guys, When I taught point location years back, I carefully compared CAM and Deadman and other sources and decided to use both books. But when it came to any kind of controversy, I had to go with CAM. The pictures in Deadman are great (as are the point combinations and classical references), but not always clear. I still don't think the drawing of Liv-9 is correct. I think they put it on the wrong side of the muscle. And they say that the bottom of the ribcage is level with L-3 when every other source says L-2, and that the most prominent bone sticking out of the bottom of the neck is T-1, which, if one is not careful to palpate for lack of rotation in T-1, puts the whole bladder channel on the torso off by one vertebra. Also, their location of Liv-3 is more distal than any other major source I know of. CAM, for all its faults, is not as bad as people say. At least they keep revising it. And though it has many typos, the more I have read it, the more I have come to respect it, even though I too long for better textbooks. And, for what it's worth, my MD ex-wife couldn't make heads or tails of Maciocia. She just couldn't stand "Foundations." Joseph Garner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 And they say that the bottom of the ribcage is level with L-3 when every other source says L-2, and that the most prominent bone sticking out of the bottom of the neck is T-1, which, if one is not careful to palpate for lack of rotation in T-1, puts the whole bladder channel on the torso off by one vertebra. >>>>>Joseph these are only approximations and are different in individuals. Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 >>>And they say that the bottom of the ribcage is level with L-3 when every other source says L-2, and that the most prominent bone sticking out of the bottom of the neck is T-1, which, if one is not careful to palpate for lack of rotation in T-1, puts the whole bladder channel on the torso off by one vertebra. >>>>>Joseph these are only approximations and are different in individuals. Alon<<< Alon, I understand these are only approximations and are different in different people. But for most people, C-7 tends to be larger than T-1, at least in my experience. For most people, the bottom of the ribcage is more level with L-2 than L-3. Maybe the British are built a bit differently than the rest of us, though I doubt it. It's not about being nitpicky, it's about the most accurate generalizations to apply in situations which are inevitably going to be difficult to generalize about. Joseph G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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