Question for Ken & others living in China

[Guest guest]

I'm considering teaching English in China as a way to live in China for a

while and study too.

 

Do any of you have suggestions re locations/schools/potential jobs?

 

Thanks! Please e-mail me off-list.

Catherine

 

chemenway

[Guest guest]

Catherine,

 

I don't seem to be able to see your whole

email address. Anyhow, it won't hurt anyone

to read this. And if you want to talk about

it further privately, please feel free to

contact me directly.

 

There is a growing demand for English teachers,

particularly native speakers and particularly

American native speakers, virtually all across

China. When I first came to China in 1992 I

found work teaching English and was able to

work in plenty of time studying and practicing,

as the schedules of English teachers tends

to be relatively lax.

 

There are more than 150,000,000 Chinese

students of the English language by rough

estimates I've seen, and if you divide that

number by 30 you get the idea of how many

English teachers are needed...give or take...

 

You might want to start to narrow the

virtually limitless possibilities by

deciding where in China you'd like to

study. No doubt wherever you point your

finger at the map there will be someone

waiting to hire you to teach English there.

 

I don't know your educational background,

but I presume you hold a Bachelor's degree

and can actually teach English. Most of

the demand for native speakers is to teach

" oral English " as it is quaintly called here;

and this doesn't tend to require a great

deal of pedagogical expertise.

 

Anyhow, do get in touch if you want more

specific info, advice, or whatever.

 

Good luck, wherever you decide to go,

 

 

Ken

[Guest guest]

You will find a host of jobs at www.eslcafe.com

 

Regards.

 

--- Catherine Hemenway <chemenway wrote:

> I'm considering teaching English in China as a way

> to live in China for a

> while and study too.

>

> Do any of you have suggestions re

> locations/schools/potential jobs?

>

> Thanks! Please e-mail me off-list.

> Catherine

>

> chemenway

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Ken,

 

I'll be going to Beijing in January and may teach English to support

myself. The only degree i have is the one i'm studying (BSc TCM)

although i have an 'A' level (a higher than normal qualification in

England) in English. I was also thinking of doing a TEFL (Teaching

English as a Foreign Language) course. What are my possibilities?

Also do you know anywhere i can teach in Beijing.

 

Attilio

 

, " kenrose2008 "

<kenrose2008> wrote:

> Catherine,

>

> I don't seem to be able to see your whole

> email address. Anyhow, it won't hurt anyone

> to read this. And if you want to talk about

> it further privately, please feel free to

> contact me directly.

>

> There is a growing demand for English teachers,

> particularly native speakers and particularly

> American native speakers, virtually all across

> China. When I first came to China in 1992 I

> found work teaching English and was able to

> work in plenty of time studying and practicing,

> as the schedules of English teachers tends

> to be relatively lax.

>

> There are more than 150,000,000 Chinese

> students of the English language by rough

> estimates I've seen, and if you divide that

> number by 30 you get the idea of how many

> English teachers are needed...give or take...

>

> You might want to start to narrow the

> virtually limitless possibilities by

> deciding where in China you'd like to

> study. No doubt wherever you point your

> finger at the map there will be someone

> waiting to hire you to teach English there.

>

> I don't know your educational background,

> but I presume you hold a Bachelor's degree

> and can actually teach English. Most of

> the demand for native speakers is to teach

> " oral English " as it is quaintly called here;

> and this doesn't tend to require a great

> deal of pedagogical expertise.

>

> Anyhow, do get in touch if you want more

> specific info, advice, or whatever.

>

> Good luck, wherever you decide to go,

>

>

> Ken

[Guest guest]

, " kenrose2008 " <

kenrose2008> wrote:

> Catherine,

>

> I don't seem to be able to see your whole

> email address.

 

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Ken and Eric.

 

I just found a TCM school in Nanchang that is looking for English teachers!

 

My e-mail address is chemenway

 

Catherine

 

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Re: Question for Ken & others living in China

 

 

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[Guest guest]

 

Catherine Hemenway [chemenw...]

>I'm considering teaching English in China as a way to live in China for a

>while and study too. Do any of you have suggestions

relocations/schools/potential jobs?

 

Catherine

There are numerous newsgroups dedicated to this, so I won't go into to much

detail here. I lived in China for 6 months and taught English for a portion

of that time. The following only pertains to those who are not certified

teachers: My experience was that it is easier to get a job teaching in

towns with fewer foreigners (Beijing and Shanghai are less than ideal unless

Ken or Jason R. can point you toward something). I taught in Qingdao. The

easiest way to find a teaching job is to go to the city first. Once there,

talk to the young people you meet. Also look at bulletin boards in areas

where English speakers hang out (hostels, Chinese language schools for

foreigners, etc). I began taking Chinese classes at Qingdao university and

stumbled into opportunities as a student. With the upcoming Olympics in

Beijing, the youth of China are MADLY trying to learn Chinese to serve as

paid interpreters to the imminent throng of tourists.

 

A couple of caveats:

- Beware sending organizations that " hook you up " with employment and

provide a visa. They generally screw you over. By reputation, they

commonly change your hours, pay, living arrangements, etc. They may even

threaten to revoke your visa, all to manipulate you into doing what they

want.

 

- Put some thought into your visa. If you enroll at a university (as I did)

you can get a long term " student " visa. This doesn't technically allow you

to work, but in reality I met few people who really had work visas.

 

Two final notes: the typical salary for teaching is 100yuan / hour.

Firstly, Teachers under contract with universities usually get far less,

which is why I recommend the self directed method described above.

 

Lastly: once you settle in and meet some locals, talk to them about renting

a place to live. Your goal will be to find an apartment that primarily

rents to locals, which will keep the price down. With local help you should

be able to find somewhere agreeable. My friends got a nice 2 bedroom with a

western style bathroom for 1000 yuan/month. Just think, only 10 hours of

work to pay for your entire month's rent!!

 

For more information I recommend searching the internet newsgroups, there is

plenty of help on this topic. If anyone chooses to go to Qingdao I have a

very good Chinese friend who I believe would be delighted to help out.

Contact me offline and I will give you his email address.

 

Good Luck,

Tim