Guest guest Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 'Red Pine translates the Taoteching, Chapter 22 beginning with: Point of order. I believe this is chapter 26, at least it is in the copy I have to hand. I know there are various versions of the text in ciruclation, especially since the discovery of the Ma Wang Dui materials. Curiously, Chapter 22 also contains a sentiment which is applicable to the conflict of paradigms issue: Yield and become whole. Bend and become straight. Ken' it's neat to see someone quoting Red Pine's translation, thank you, Ken. i'm trying to recall his american given name... he is the friend of one teacher with whom i spent over several hundred hours in port townsend, washington, before and after graduation. she had already been practicing 5E for over 20 years. she was, in fact, the only teacher i had who had practiced for that long. as a student and new practitioner, i felt fortified by her experience. i love the directional movements associated with 5E. often, the direction present while with a patient in a treatment room is my best tool for confirming constitutional focus, and thus provides my best aim at treating the root. in the name of full disclosure, i did treat with her the last couple years i lived in seattle, so i have that extra bias. it was enlightening to see someone who had worked and studied for so long tweak her needling technique a couple times, once while i was also her patient. i can only say her needling was lighter than it had been, and it took me a bit to trust that it would still work. of course, it did work at least as well as ever. she spent time with Red Pine while he was working on some translations. i recall... - the 'letting go' of the large intestine translates more directly as 'sending [what no longer serves us] on down the road' - water is actually depicted as having a downward direction in the literature. but, metal is also depicted as having downward movement. so? the downward direction of water refers to its flowing downward toward the sea - remember descriptions of the transporting points. metal's downward direction is a heavier, gravitational pull. well, i hope someone else might enjoy these tidbits. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 Hi Lynn, That was me replying to Ken who I thought would appreciate the quote. I kind of thought it would light a fire under him since he is in "direct contact" with the ancient sages. Ah, but he said not a thing yet in reply. I'll have to check my copy for the error you point out. I only took the first two lines and the last two lines and had the book open on my desk when I was writing. Nam Singh assigned that book to me now five years ago, and I'm finding it so densely packed with high calorie wisdom that I can only take a half a page at a time. Lynn, all of your thoughtful and insightful "tid bits" are far more nourishing and delicious than dim sum, in my opinion. In gratitude, Emmanuel Segmen - Lynn Detamore Monday, July 28, 2003 4:57 AM Red Pine's taoteching 'Red Pine translates the Taoteching, Chapter 22 beginning with:Point of order. I believe this is chapter 26, at least it is in thecopy I have to hand. I know there are various versions of the text in ciruclation, especially since the discovery of the Ma Wang Dui materials.Curiously, Chapter 22 also contains a sentiment which is applicable to the conflict of paradigms issue:Yield and become whole.Bend and become straight.Ken'it's neat to see someone quoting Red Pine's translation, thank you, Ken.i'm trying to recall his american given name...he is the friend of one teacher with whom i spent over several hundred hours in port townsend, washington, before and after graduation. she had already been practicing 5E for over 20 years. she was, in fact, the only teacher i had who had practiced for that long. as a student and new practitioner, i felt fortified by her experience. i love the directional movements associated with 5E. often, the direction present while with a patient in a treatment room is my best tool for confirming constitutional focus, and thus provides my best aim at treating the root. in the name of full disclosure, i did treat with her the last couple years i lived in seattle, so i have that extra bias. it was enlightening to see someone who had worked and studied for so long tweak her needling technique a couple times, once while i was also her patient. i can only say her needling was lighter than it had been, and it took me a bit to trust that it would still work. of course, it did work at least as well as ever.she spent time with Red Pine while he was working on some translations. i recall...- the 'letting go' of the large intestine translates more directly as 'sending [what no longer serves us] on down the road'- water is actually depicted as having a downward direction in the literature. but, metal is also depicted as having downward movement. so? the downward direction of water refers to its flowing downward toward the sea - remember descriptions of the transporting points. metal's downward direction is a heavier, gravitational pull.well, i hope someone else might enjoy these tidbits.LynnChinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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