Guest guest Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 I thought the vets on the list might find this useful. It is always nice to know what a major etiological factor might be in a disease. I wonder if people thought the main damage from smoking was caused by the introduction something we would call a toxin in TCM terms or mainly from the phlegm congelation that occurs when the heat scorches the lungs. And the subsequent qi and fluid stagnation throughout the body due to impaired lung depurative downbearing. Nicotine is a toxin in the modern sense in that it is a deadly poison. However it does not cause cancer. The various " tars " in cigarette smoke are the direct mutagenic cause of cancer. But are known mutagens in any way equivalent to toxin (du) as the term is used in TCM. Chip and Jason have given us a lot to think about regarding the wen bing topic of lurking heat. I wonder what the source texts have to say about this application of toxin. It would seem to me that diseases that involve " toxin " in TCM usually have quite extreme symptoms. Thus if one was coughing blood in later stage of lung cancer, perhaps one might use herbs like da qing ye. But what would technically call for the use of such an herb in early stages that might just involve dyspnea. Are there any classical signs of toxin in the early stages of the disease that would warrant this approach from a purely CM perspective. I always had the same concern working on AIDS patients. Now, on the other hand, I will play my own devil's advocate. A number of herbs have been shown to have special activity against cancers. San Leng and E zhu, the blood movers and bai hua she she cao, the resolve toxin herb are a few examples. Would or do people use herbs like bai hua she she cao even in the absence of abscesses, sores, ulcerations, heat stangury or dampheat jaundice? ------ Smoking, Cancer, and Cats Larry Dossey, MD Good medicine, including prevention, isn’t just for humans. It’s for pets too. Nowhere is this truer than where cigarette smoking is concerned—not because pets smoke, but because their owners often do. One of the perennial concerns of cat lovers is that their pet will develop leukemia or lymphoma, which are notorious killers in felines. We’ve known for a long time that smoking causes cancer in humans; evidence now suggests that smoking is related to cancer in cats too. This is the conclusion of researchers at the Tufts University School of Veterinary Medicine in North Grafton, Mass. They surveyed the home environments of nearly 200 cats that were hospitalized at the school’s veterinary hospital, 80 of which had malignant lymphoma. If the cats had spent considerable time living with a smoker, their lymphoma risk doubled; and those cats with the longest exposure to in-home smoking had a four-fold risk of contracting lymphoma. Most of the cats’ cancers were in the nasal or gastrointestinal tract, which would fit an inhalation model of cancer causation, or the possibility that cats might swallow smoke particles lodged in their fur when they groom themselves. Prior studies have demonstrated increased health problems in the spouses and children of smokers from passive, second-hand smoke. To this list, we can now add smokers’ pets. References Bertone ER, Snyder LA, Moore AS. Environmental tobacco smoke and risk of malignant lymphoma in pet cats. American Journal of Epidemiology. 2002;156(3):268-273. Raloff J. Cigarette smoke can harm kitty, too. Science News. 2002;162(8):125. Chinese Herbs " Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds " -- Albert Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 Nicotine is a toxin in the modern sense in that it is a deadly poison. However it does not cause cancer >>>Todd Nicotine may also have beneficial effects Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 , " Alon Marcus " < alonmarcus@w...> wrote: > Nicotine may also have beneficial effects I am sure it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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