Guest guest Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 , " " wrote: > What concerns me are practitioners' associations and national > commissions determining the course load for future CM practitioners, recommending increasing biomedical courses, but not really increasing the depth or detail of Chinese medical courses such as diagnostics, pattern differentiation, internal medicine, and of course medical Chinese. We shouldn't bias our profession into a 'biomedical jr.' future. >>> Z'ev: It's probably too late to slow or stop the trend into the biomedical realm; and it may increase at a faster rate. Kendell and others seem to be recasting CM as a antecedent Western model--what the Chinese would have meant if they had more science and less superstition. I would prefer a more integrative approach, too, but the struggle is as much political as it is intellectual. But we can do one thing--right now--that doesn't require a national commission. As teachers, we can add one (1) more text to our requied reading list in our classes. That alone will improve the standard of education. And its immediately achieveable. Perhaps we could even get a consensus on the CHA about which books to add as " required supplemental " reading. What would they be? For my pulse diagnosis class which I will teach at school during this Fall trimester, I use many of my own articles as well as Pulse Diagnosis by Li Shi Zhen, G. M. Seifert (Editor), Shih-Chen Li; and Unschuld's translation of the Nan Jing. Then, as the extra text, add Pulse Diagnosis by Yubin Lu. I would have added Leon Hammer's book simply because he mentions me, but it's too big and different. Which one text would you add to your herb classes? Jim Ramholz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 Depending on the class, I've already required Shang Han Lun and/or Jiao Shude's " Ten Lectures " . On Sunday, August 3, 2003, at 02:33 PM, James Ramholz wrote: > Which one text would you add to your herb classes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 , " " wrote: > Depending on the class, I've already required Shang Han Lun and/or Jiao Shude's " Ten Lectures " . >>> Z'ev: Good choices. For introductory classes, I would also like to see: The Expressiveness of the Body and the Divergence of Greek and by Shigehisa Kuriyama; and The Geography of Thought : How Asians and Westerners Think Differently...and Why by Richard Nisbett. Jim Ramholz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 I also add several required reading texts depending on the classes - including Unschuld's Nan Jing, Chace's Jia Yi Jing, Jiao's Ten Lectures, Soulie de Morant, various editions of the Nei Jing etc. etc. For every class I teach I give a suggested reading list that contains at least 10 books - often more. Just to give students some idea of what is out there and what they could be reading to get a deeper understanding. Marnae At 02:35 PM 8/3/2003 -0700, you wrote: Depending on the class, I've already required Shang Han Lun and/or Jiao Shude's " Ten Lectures " . On Sunday, August 3, 2003, at 02:33 PM, James Ramholz wrote: > Which one text would you add to your herb classes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 Also Farquhar's Knowing Practice, Elizabeth Hsu's latest and several other good anthropological works. Marnae At 10:35 PM 8/3/2003 +0000, you wrote: --- In , " " wrote: > Depending on the class, I've already required Shang Han Lun and/or Jiao Shude's " Ten Lectures " . >>> Z'ev: Good choices. For introductory classes, I would also like to see: The Expressiveness of the Body and the Divergence of Greek and by Shigehisa Kuriyama; and The Geography of Thought : How Asians and Westerners Think Differently...and Why by Richard Nisbett. Jim Ramholz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 For herb classes I also add Sionneau's Dui Yao and Pao Zhi. At 02:52 PM 8/4/2003 -0400, you wrote: I also add several required reading texts depending on the classes - including Unschuld's Nan Jing, Chace's Jia Yi Jing, Jiao's Ten Lectures, Soulie de Morant, various editions of the Nei Jing etc. etc. For every class I teach I give a suggested reading list that contains at least 10 books - often more. Just to give students some idea of what is out there and what they could be reading to get a deeper understanding. Marnae At 02:35 PM 8/3/2003 -0700, you wrote: Depending on the class, I've already required Shang Han Lun and/or Jiao Shude's " Ten Lectures " . On Sunday, August 3, 2003, at 02:33 PM, James Ramholz wrote: > Which one text would you add to your herb classes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 , Marnae Ergil wrote: > Also Farquhar's Knowing Practice, Elizabeth Hsu's latest and several other good anthropological works. Marnae: Are you using her " Innovations in " or " The Transmission of " ? Jim Ramholz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 , Marnae Ergil wrote: > For herb classes I also add Sionneau's Dui Yao and Pao Zhi. >I also add several required reading texts depending on the classes - >including Unschuld's Nan Jing, Chace's Jia Yi Jing, Jiao's Ten Lectures, Soulie de Morant, various editions of the Nei Jing etc. etc. For every class I teach I give a suggested reading list that contains at least 10 books - often more. Just to give students some idea of what is out there and what they could be reading to get a deeper understanding. > > Marnae: The list sounds like a good idea; think I'll do the same. Do you also annotate the list to explain the importance of that particular text and why it made the list? How many students buy more than one title off the list? Jim Ramholz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 Both - but I prefer Transmission. At 07:18 PM 8/4/2003 +0000, you wrote: --- In , Marnae Ergil wrote: > Also Farquhar's Knowing Practice, Elizabeth Hsu's latest and several other good anthropological works. Marnae: Are you using her " Innovations in " or " The Transmission of " ? Jim Ramholz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 Idon't annotate on the list I give out, but I discuss each book in the first class and talk about its virtues and downsides. The lists definitely ciruclate outside of the class/school, but this way, those who attend my classes, get to hear what I have to say, and those who don't, don't. No idea who buys what - it definitely varies class to class. I don't really expect them to buy much while they are students. But over the years I have had many students tell me that after they graduated they used the lists to help them to grow their library. This is really the point! Marnae At 07:22 PM 8/4/2003 +0000, you wrote: --- In , Marnae Ergil wrote: > For herb classes I also add Sionneau's Dui Yao and Pao Zhi. >I also add several required reading texts depending on the classes - >including Unschuld's Nan Jing, Chace's Jia Yi Jing, Jiao's Ten Lectures, Soulie de Morant, various editions of the Nei Jing etc. etc. For every class I teach I give a suggested reading list that contains at least 10 books - often more. Just to give students some idea of what is out there and what they could be reading to get a deeper understanding. > > Marnae: The list sounds like a good idea; think I'll do the same. Do you also annotate the list to explain the importance of that particular text and why it made the list? How many students buy more than one title off the list? Jim Ramholz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 , Marnae Ergil wrote: > Both - but I prefer Transmission. >>> Marnae: What do you cover in Hsu's Innovations--all of it or selected essays? Jim Ramholz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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