herbal procedure

[Guest guest]

Hi! I just meet with a friend who had a procedure done in Taiwan for

a low back problem. From what was described to me the procedure went

along something like: First the skin in the lumbar region was burned

with a direct moxa application and after it was burned and blistered

up, the top layer was removed somehow (peeled perhaps) and thereafter

an external herbal preparation was applied to the exposed tissue in

the region and I assumed dressed. The procedure was done for his

lumbar pain and to increase energy and strength. I could see from

his body movement that there was a big change for the positive. And

he claims that as well. Well, I thought it was interesting and am

wondering if anyone knows about this procedure who might be willing

to share.

[Guest guest]

This sounds like what in Japan is called " danokyuu " or suppurative

moxibustion. It's used for chronic recalcitrant indurated tissue --

stubborn kori -- which doesn't respond to other therapies. It's ugly

but i understand it works very well. One suppurating ointment recipe

from Japan that i've read (from Junji Mizutani) is vegetable oil 50g,

pine oil 12.5g, red lead 25g, Japan tallow (vegetable wax) 12.5g,

Huangbai 5g. The ointment is applied once or twice a day after the

moxa burn is made; pus forms and is then excreted, carrying with it

the accumulated metabolic waste lodged in the tissue.

 

For more information, contact Junji Mizutani through the NAJOM

website, http://members.shaw.ca/najom/

 

robert hayden

[Guest guest]

, " gregzlac2002 " wrote:

The procedure was done for his lumbar pain and to increase energy

and strength. I could see from his body movement that there was a

big change for the positive. And he claims that as well. >>>

 

 

Did they ever say what type of back pain or pattern this was used

for?

 

They think it must work because the patient never comes back ;-)

 

 

Jim Ramholz

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, " kampo36 " wrote:

> This sounds like what in Japan is called " danokyuu " or suppurative

> moxibustion. It's used for chronic recalcitrant indurated tissue --

> stubborn kori -- which doesn't respond to other therapies. It's

ugly but i understand it works very well. One suppurating ointment

recipe from Japan that i've read (from Junji Mizutani) is vegetable

oil 50g, pine oil 12.5g, red lead 25g, Japan tallow (vegetable wax)

12.5g, Huangbai 5g. The ointment is applied once or twice a day

after the moxa burn is made; pus forms and is then excreted,

carrying with it the accumulated metabolic waste lodged in the

tissue. >>>

 

 

Robert:

 

Is this Japanese method similar to the Korean and Chinese doing

thumb-size direct moxa on points?

 

My teacher told a story (which Miki Shima later repeated) about a

traveling doctor doing thumb-size (literally) direct moxa on a

patient with severe scoleosis. The very painful procedure had to be

repeated daily by the patient himself and lasted about a year until

the doctor returned. During the process, a great deal of pus was

produced and alternately went through the entire series of 5-Element

smells before the odor of the pus became lighter and aromatic. By

that time the scoleosis was cured.

 

I saw my teacher burn this size moxa on some of his patients. The

Koreans have small herbal patches to put on the burns which are as

round as the size of a quater and deep).

 

 

Jim Ramholz

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, " James Ramholz "

<jramholz> wrote:

> Robert:

>

> Is this Japanese method similar to the Korean and Chinese doing

> thumb-size direct moxa on points?

>

 

Yes, what you describe sounds like danokyuu. The traditional

description is of a moxa cone the size of a horse's eye.

 

rh