Guest guest Posted September 11, 2003 Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 The research does not specify which came first, only that the use of huang lian for infants was popular in a region of China, and that there was a high rate of jaundice there. It certainly seems reasonable to use huang lian when there are signs of heat. There are other herbal medicinals that were once recommended by popular belief now known to be potentially dangerous. I¹m not sure if huang lian in the context of a formula should be included among them, but the research on berberine does seem to have been repeated with similar results and the mechanism of a potential problem defined. I have been thinking since the original post that we do not know if the higher incidence of jaundice led to any neonatal morbidity, that there was a higher incidence of the more serious kernicterus, or that any adverse outcome was noted at all in this region of China were there was popular use of huang lian. It is quite possible that while the berberine alone was shown to disturb how bilirubin is bound and excreted, that the use of huang lian alone or in formulas could have some kind of ameliorating effect on neonatal jaundice. I don¹t know. I still think though, that this western study should give us another layer of precaution about the use of these herbs around term in pregnancy and the early neonatal period. There are many other equally effective herbs to use instead that do not carry this question. Valerie on 9/11/03 12:54 AM, at wrote: > Concerning my last post about huang lian used for newborns with > juandice, I went back to the thread and got this quote from Valerie > Hobbs. The question then becomes if children were getting jaundice > because of the huang lian or getting getting huang lian because of the > jaundice. > > > This research sited on Moore's website used the administration of > berberine >> >alone. While noted increased levels of jaundice in newborns in a > region of >> >China where huang lian was apparently a popular tea to administer to >> >newborns somehow led to the research, the research did not specify > that any >> >higher incidence of neurologic problems also occurred. I do not know > of any >> >research about berberine-levels from the use of these herbs in > formulas, but >> >perhaps others here do. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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