Guest guest Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 Will, Are you terrified, petrified, or simply opposed to the formation of a teachers organization? Ken Ken - Actually - I am none of these and support a faculty membership organization as a practicing Dean. I can only imagine facing a faculty strike while in charge of departmental budgets. And with the tuition these institutions enjoy, there is not a lot of wiggle room. As I stated previously, I think we need to approach the development of such an organization in every forum where faculty gather. best - Will William R. Morris, OMD Secretary, AAOM Academic Dean Emperor's College of TOM 310-453-8383 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 I'll second that in every meeting or discussion I have been in where both Will and a teacher's (I prefer professor because it is in a college) organization, he has been very supportive of the idea. Will, however, is a stickler for organization, credibility, and inclusiveness, which is something that Stuart was also trying to attain as well. The problem is, has always been, and will always be, money and finding the right souls to keep the boat afloat for the first few years. On that note, and considering that a teachers organization (notice I didn't say union) will be to the benefit of ALL the colleges and most likely to the profession at large, I don't see why there isn's a approach made to the colleges or the council of colleges to ask for a certain amount of start up monies relative to the number of teachers (or students) each college has. This doesn't have to be the NEA, but can be a group of professors working to better their abilities, with collegial discussion and negotiations with adminstrators as part of the mixture, if it is needed to better the education. Our profession has been kept splintered long enough, and our failure to develop this sort of organization is detrimental to the future of the schools and to the profession. My personal opinion. David Molony In a message dated 10/9/03 5:22:40 AM, WMorris116 writes: > Will, > > Are you terrified, petrified, or simply opposed > to the formation of a teachers organization? > > Ken > > > Ken - > > Actually - I am none of these and support a faculty membership organization > as a practicing Dean. I can only imagine facing a faculty strike while in > charge of departmental budgets. And with the tuition these institutions > enjoy, > there is not a lot of wiggle room. > > As I stated previously, I think we need to approach the development of such > an organization in every forum where faculty gather. > > > best - > > > Will > > > > > William R. Morris, OMD > Secretary, AAOM > Academic Dean > Emperor's College of TOM > 310-453-8383 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 Dave - This seems like a great idea. Anyone feel like taking the first step and writing the proposal to CCAOM? Marnae At 03:13 PM 10/13/2003 -0400, you wrote: >I'll second that in every meeting or discussion I have been in where both >Will and a teacher's (I prefer professor because it is in a college) >organization, he has been very supportive of the idea. Will, however, is a >stickler for >organization, credibility, and inclusiveness, which is something that >Stuart was >also trying to attain as well. The problem is, has always been, and will >always be, money and finding the right souls to keep the boat afloat for >the first >few years. >On that note, and considering that a teachers organization (notice I didn't >say union) will be to the benefit of ALL the colleges and most likely to the >profession at large, I don't see why there isn's a approach made to the >colleges >or the council of colleges to ask for a certain amount of start up monies >relative to the number of teachers (or students) each college has. >This doesn't have to be the NEA, but can be a group of professors working to >better their abilities, with collegial discussion and negotiations with >adminstrators as part of the mixture, if it is needed to better the >education. Our >profession has been kept splintered long enough, and our failure to develop >this sort of organization is detrimental to the future of the schools and >to the >profession. >My personal opinion. >David Molony > >In a message dated 10/9/03 5:22:40 AM, WMorris116 writes: > > > > Will, > > > > Are you terrified, petrified, or simply opposed > > to the formation of a teachers organization? > > > > Ken > > > > > > Ken - > > > > Actually - I am none of these and support a faculty membership organization > > as a practicing Dean. I can only imagine facing a faculty strike while in > > charge of departmental budgets. And with the tuition these institutions > > enjoy, > > there is not a lot of wiggle room. > > > > As I stated previously, I think we need to approach the development of such > > an organization in every forum where faculty gather. > > > > > > best - > > > > > > Will > > > > > > > > > > William R. Morris, OMD > > Secretary, AAOM > > Academic Dean > > Emperor's College of TOM > > 310-453-8383 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 A CCAOM meeting is coming up in a month where such an idea can be brought up. It does need some discussion and thought first, which should probably be done with a few people on a conference call. If need be AAOM can set one up for 4-7 people for a half hour or so, since the profession needs this sort of thing. Develoment of an agenda prior will keep it from becoming a blab fest. Time is one thing everyone is short of. DAve Dave - This seems like a great idea. Anyone feel like taking the first step and writing the proposal to CCAOM? Marnae > >On that note, and considering that a teachers organization (notice I > didn't > >say union) will be to the benefit of ALL the colleges and most likely to > the > >profession at large, I don't see why there isn's a approach made to the > >colleges > >or the council of colleges to ask for a certain amount of start up monies > >relative to the number of teachers (or students) each college has. > >This doesn't have to be the NEA, but can be a group of professors working > to > >better their abilities, with collegial discussion and negotiations with > >adminstrators as part of the mixture, if it is needed to better the > >education. Our > >profession has been kept splintered long enough, and our failure to develop > >this sort of organization is detrimental to the future of the schools and > >to the > >profession. > >My personal opinion. > >David Molony > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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