Guest guest Posted November 5, 2003 Report Share Posted November 5, 2003 From Bob Damone upon further investigation. I put the file he mentions in the files section. > " Robert Damone " <bdamone > Wed Nov 05, 2003 09:03:14 AM US/Pacific > " " < > RE: white sticky phlegm > bdamone > > I am attaching a plain text document that you should be able to open from > wenlin. It is the definition of wan tan from zhong yi da ci dian. Feel free > to forward to if you like. Wan Tan referes to the enduring and > stubborn nature of it rather than any specific temperature associated with > it; it can be depressed turbid phlegm, cold phlegm, or heat phlegm. It > seems that in the case from Jason, there is enduring turbid phlegm (aka > damp > phlegm) and not neither obvious heat nor cold. > > I guess it is more accurate to say that sticky white phlegm MAY be due to > heat OR turbidity or cold, though I think many forget to consider the > consistency of the phlegm and not only the color. Thatis, when treating > sticky and difficult to expectorate phlegm that is not yellow, heat is not > off the table. Also, if treating it as one or the other yields no result, > then one may adopt the opposite strategy. In my experience, though, > enduring phlegm depression easily transforms heat due to the six > depressions phenomenon. If the host qi is colder this may take longer or > may not occur at all. There are also many cases in which there is enduring > turbid phlegm (aka damp phlegm) with slight heat. > > Have fun. > > Bob Damone M.S., L.Ac. > bdamone > > > Chinese Herbs " Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds " -- Albert Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2003 Report Share Posted November 5, 2003 bob damone wrote: Also, if treating it as one or the other yields no result, > then one may adopt the opposite strategy. >>>>is there a chinese term for using treatment as diagnosis? thanks, dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2003 Report Share Posted November 5, 2003 bob damone wrote: Also, if treating it as one or the other yields no result, > then one may adopt the opposite strategy. >>>>is there a chinese term for using treatment as diagnosis >>>Where can you read it alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2003 Report Share Posted November 5, 2003 It goes without saying, that the nature of other symptoms and signs (heat, cold, vacuity, repletion, yin, yang) will help clarify the nature of the phlegm . Symptoms and signs in Chinese medicine are contextual. On Nov 5, 2003, at 10:25 AM, wrote: >> I guess it is more accurate to say that sticky white phlegm MAY be >> due to >> heat OR turbidity or cold, though I think many forget to consider the >> consistency of the phlegm and not only the color. Thatis, when >> treating >> sticky and difficult to expectorate phlegm that is not yellow, heat >> is not >> off the table. Also, if treating it as one or the other yields no >> result, >> then one may adopt the opposite strategy. In my experience, though, >> enduring phlegm depression easily transforms heat due to the six >> depressions phenomenon. If the host qi is colder this may take longer >> or >> may not occur at all. There are also many cases in which there is >> enduring >> turbid phlegm (aka damp phlegm) with slight heat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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