Question for Unschuld - Invite him?

[Guest guest]

> I think it's an excellent idea to invite Paul Unschuld to this

forum.

> Perhaps one of the people still at the conference, or someone else

> who knows him, could put this to him.

>

> It occurs to me that the sheer number of emails that often grace

> these virtual pages might be a bit excessive for a busy scholar,

not

> to mention all of us - perhaps we should consider the possibility

of

> creating a separate discussion group to consider the 'Unschuld

> issues'.

>

>

 

or you could ask if he could set aside a specific week to respond to

emails from the group, rather than having to be an ongoing member.

 

rh

 

 

Good idea, if PU didn't want to participate in a full discussion

group. Another possibility, even less of a commitment for PU, would be

for one of us (Ken?) to write Unschuld an email with a number of

questions that had been agreed upon in this forum.

 

Wainwright

[Guest guest]

--- " wainwrightchurchill " wrote:

 

> Another possibility, even less of a commitment for PU, would be

> for one of us (Ken?) to write Unschuld an email with a number of

> questions that had been agreed upon in this forum.

> Wainwright

 

I would still favour the option of a discussion with multiple

interactions instead of a single question/answer interaction.

 

Alwin

[Guest guest]

Pat,

 

, " Pat Ethridge " <

pat.ethridge@c...> wrote:

> What was decided about paying him a fee for his time, etc.?

>

> Pat

 

Nothing was decided. In my conversations

with Paul, the subject never came up. I don't

think he envisions devoting any great amount

of his time. But then he wrote an entire book

'what is medicine? " because of a dispute he

had with Gabriel Stux a couple of years ago.

 

So we'll just have to see what happens. If it

were to become something to which he needed

or wanted to devote substantial amounts of

his professional time, I guess we'd have to

come to terms with that.

 

Interesting idea really.

 

Ken

[Guest guest]

, " kenrose2008 " wrote:

> Diverting the discussion does not divert the

> issues. >>>

 

 

 

 

Ken:

 

No one wants to divert the issues; least of all me. Moving it to the

Redwing server doesn't stifle discussion. It actually enhances them

when Chinese characters can be included. And this would revive the

translation forum which seems to have lost interest and audience.

 

But so far the discussion has been 'what someone else says about

what Paul says'. Second-hand is fine, but I would like to hear

Paul's own words and in their own context; not something

predigested. Someone should, at least for the time being, add the

handouts or their notes to the Files section---that would help

immensely. The more info, the better.

 

I am eagerly waiting for the video or audio tape to become available.

 

 

Jim Ramholz

[Guest guest]

I have fairly extensive notes. I am going to edit them, then pass them

on to Paul for his approval, and then, with his permission, post them

or submit it as an article or review for publication.

 

 

On Nov 12, 2003, at 5:47 PM, James Ramholz wrote:

 

> But so far the discussion has been 'what someone else says about

> what Paul says'. Second-hand is fine, but I would like to hear

> Paul's own words and in their own context; not something

> predigested. Someone should, at least for the time being, add the

> handouts or their notes to the Files section---that would help

> immensely. The more info, the better.

[Guest guest]

Jim,

 

Thanks for clarifying this. I get it.

 

Seems like Z'ev has attended to your request

for the tapes, etc. and will supply his notes.

 

We'll take up the details on the new forum at

Redwing and see how it goes. I was just trying

to make sure that there wasn't a move afoot to

bifurcate the topics that constitute the substance

of what goes on here at CHA, lest it fall into

disrepair.

 

Ken

 

, " James Ramholz " <

jramholz> wrote:

> , " kenrose2008 " wrote:

> > Diverting the discussion does not divert the

> > issues. >>>

>

>

>

>

> Ken:

>

> No one wants to divert the issues; least of all me. Moving it to the

> Redwing server doesn't stifle discussion. It actually enhances them

> when Chinese characters can be included. And this would revive the

> translation forum which seems to have lost interest and audience.

>

> But so far the discussion has been 'what someone else says about

> what Paul says'. Second-hand is fine, but I would like to hear

> Paul's own words and in their own context; not something

> predigested. Someone should, at least for the time being, add the

> handouts or their notes to the Files section---that would help

> immensely. The more info, the better.

>

> I am eagerly waiting for the video or audio tape to become available.

>

>

> Jim Ramholz

[Guest guest]

sF

[Guest guest]

, " kenrose2008 " wrote:

I was just trying to make sure that there wasn't a move afoot to

bifurcate the topics that constitute the substance of what goes on

here at CHA, lest it fall into disrepair. >>>

 

 

Ken:

 

How could it " fall into disrepair " ? It doesn't change people's

choice to participate. It only moves it to a venue that specializes

in the topic without competing for attention with other subjects and

better supports the flow of information by supporting Chinese

characters.

 

 

Jim Ramholz

[Guest guest]

Count me in too (marnae)

 

Marnae

 

At 05:04 PM 11/12/2003 +0000, you wrote:

>Emmanuel and All,

>

>The question of how people who want to puruse the

>dialog with Paul and about his work might progress

>in such pursuits came up yesterday afternoon in

>the final hours of Paul's workshop after the PCOM

>symposium. Someone suggested holding such

>a discussion here on the CHA list, and I pointed

>out that the robust and often adversarial dynamics

>that emerge from our actions here may...or may

>not be ideal for delving into Paul's work in more

>detail. Anyone who was at the workshop yesterday

>probably has a good idea of exactly what I mean

>by that, and anyone who wasn't can certainly

>surmise how difficult it is to deal with particulars

>of translation, transmission, historical, cultural,

>and other issues and their relationship to clinical

>realities when so much of the discussion is subsumed

>in arguments over whether or not such an approach

>is valid.

>

>I was given a list of the names and email addresses

>of those who want to focus closely on Paul's work

>both as a follow up to the past two days and as

>preparation for future gatherings at which we

>might select specific topics that emerge as needful

>of attention from the ongoing discussions.

>

>Bob Felt has agreed to donate space on his

>forum server, and I will set up a forum for this

>purpose there that will be free and open to

>all who care to join. It will be moderated and the

>protocols will be published, as always, on the

>Redwing site. It will take a few days, as Bob himself

>is now in transit back to New Mexico and I will

>also be on the road for the next few weeks.

>

>But the forum will come into existence shortly.

>I'll let everyone know, and it will simply provide

>a space where those who want to follow up can

>gather and exchange ideas. It will also have the

>plus of running on software that will allow us

>to post Chinese characters. Bob and I talked

>it over with Paul last night and we have his

>blessings. So when it comes to forwarding

>specific questions to him, the line already exists

>and can be accessed freely via this new forum.

>

>As Z'ev has said, it was a wonderful couple of

>days, and I think there will be much more to

>say here about the implications of Paul's

>work on the study and practice of Chinese medicine.

>

>Ken

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Please add me to the list also. Thanks.

 

Pat

 

 

 

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