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Dear Wainwright and Emmanuel,

 

Just off the cuff, as has been discussed earlier, the two reasons given

for aging are blood (should I say stagnation or stasis?-yikes!), and yin

deficiency. Here you would combine both of them. Just thinking out

loud, assuming that the tongue and pulses are consistant with that

diagnosis.

 

Yehuda

 

PS Happy birthday Emmanuel, keep getting better like chen pi!

 

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 22:28:30 -0000 " wainwrightchurchill "

<w.churchill_1- writes:

> <<kampo36 <kampo36>

> Sun Nov 16, 2003 8:58pm

> speaking of Honghua

>

> In " Channel Divergences " mention is made of Irie Tadashi's routine

> inclusion of Honghua into Liu Wei Di Huang Wan (Rokumi JiO Gan).

> Does anyone here know if this variation is available as a prepared

> medicine either here or in Japan? Or if Irie sensei used bulk herbs

> or added to an extract preparation?

>

> Thanks,

> robert hayden>>

>

> Robert,

> What is the rationale given for that?

>

> Wainwright

>

>

>

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, yehuda l frischman

<@j...> wrote:

> Dear Wainwright and Emmanuel,

>

> Just off the cuff, as has been discussed earlier, the two reasons

given

> for aging are blood (should I say stagnation or stasis?-yikes!),

and yin

> deficiency. Here you would combine both of them. Just thinking out

> loud, assuming that the tongue and pulses are consistant with that

> diagnosis.

>

> Yehuda

>

 

You're likely on the mark here, Yehuda, blood stasis (Yuxue/Oketsu)

being a very common finding in Kampo. Rokumijiogan and other

Rehmannia formulas are indicated by lower abdominal --especially sub-

umbilical-- vacuity, and lower ab vacuity is often complicated by

blood stasis findings, focal areas of hardness, pressure pain, skin

discoloration, etc.

 

robert hayden

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<< Re: liu wei di huang wan+hong hua

 

Just off the cuff, as has been discussed earlier, the two reasons given

for aging are blood (should I say stagnation or stasis?-yikes!), and yin

deficiency. Here you would combine both of them. Just thinking out

loud, assuming that the tongue and pulses are consistant with that

diagnosis.

 

Yehuda>>

 

<<You're likely on the mark here, Yehuda, blood stasis (Yuxue/Oketsu)

being a very common finding in Kampo. Rokumijiogan and other

Rehmannia formulas are indicated by lower abdominal --especially sub-

umbilical-- vacuity, and lower ab vacuity is often complicated by

blood stasis findings, focal areas of hardness, pressure pain, skin

discoloration, etc.

 

robert hayden>>

 

Thanks, Yehuda and Robert.

 

That sounds like a reasonable interpretation of the formula. Does any

one know the dosages given in the original Japanese formula, and has

any one used this formula? If so, any feedback?

 

Wainwright

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