Trigger Points, Injections and Secret Formulas

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Hi All, & Hi Teresa,

 

Teresa Hall wrote:

> Hi Phil & others - Based on my last couple of years experience

> working with a MD who does a lot of trigger point injections, in

> muscle syndromes... and based on clinical observations in China...

> I certainly believe that there are times when injecting into

> muscles would be beneficial.

 

Yes, some practitioners inject TPs, for example with Impletol or

other local anaesthetic, diluted to 0.25-0.50%. However, TP

therapy is very successful without injection! Simple AP, low-power

laser, heavy massage, or stretch-and-spray are all documented as

being successful.

 

> For example, injecting blood nourishers and invigorators into

> traumatized muscle tissue can certainly be a powerful way to

> deliver the substance.

 

I am wary of that, unless the injectable solution is sterile and non-

irritant. Some practitioners also inject autologous blood i/m, but as

others on the list have said, that may cause adhesions unless the

injected area is massaged well and regularly until all consequent

residues are removed.

 

> I believe that injecting herbal preparations would be much more

> beneficial then using cortisones, or any of the other agents used

> in trigger point therapy.

 

I agree that cortisone use is undesitable unless it is essential.

IMO, it is not essentia; for effective TP therapy. As for injecting

herbal materials, IMO this is also unnecessary because:

(a) simpler methods work well, and

(b) herbals can be used orally or topically (for example MOOV or

deep Heat-typs rubs), if needed, to Nourish/Quicken Blood and

supplement other forms of TP therapy.

 

> When I was in China there was a doctor doing injections *secret

> formula* to stop Rheumatoid Atheritis [arthritis?]. The patient

> had to come in every other day. The treatment was working for

> him. Teresa

 

IMO, ethical professionals should not use " secret formulas " by

injection or in any other form! And in Western countries] if the Drug

Regulation Agencies find such materials on the premises of a

professional, that professional could lose his/her licence to practice.

 

Anyway, RA can be helped in many cases by AP, apitherapy,

homeopathy + dietary therapy, oral herbal medicine, etc.

 

I do not inject humans, but if I had to do so, I would reserve

injection therapy for those cases for which other methods are

ineffective, or much less effective.

 

That said, I know several vets who inject relevant homeopathic

preparations into the relevant AP points in animals. They claim

quicker and faster results with this combined therapy than with

himeopathy or AP alone.

 

 

 

 

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I am wary of that, unless the injectable solution is sterile and non-

irritant. Some practitioners also inject autologous blood i/m, but as

others on the list have said, that may cause adhesions unless the

injected area is massaged well and regularly until all consequent

residues are removed.

>>>>>Adhesions are probably not the most problematic part. I forget who it was

but somebody suggested autologous blood IM and that clearly in not smart as

ossification is very likely. It can however be quite effective in tendons and

ligaments

Alon

 

 

 

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In a message dated 11/20/03 9:42:24 PM, alonmarcus writes:

 

 

> >>>>>Adhesions are probably not the most problematic part. I forget who it

> was but somebody suggested autologous blood IM and that clearly in not smart

> as ossification is very likely. It can however be quite effective in tendons

> and ligaments

> Alon

>

 

Autosanguis therapy is using a few drops of blood and at least 2 cc of

traumeel or other solution. If anyone wants more info, check the Heel site.

David Molony

 

 

 

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Autosanguis therapy is using a few drops of blood and at least 2 cc of

traumeel or other solution. If anyone wants more info, check the Heel site.

David Molony

 

>>>>Such a small amount of blood would not be any problem even in muscles. For

tendons and ligaments you can use a much larger amount of blood. This is direct

delivery of many growth factors, a kind of prolo therapy

Alon