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Dear Rick,

 

I have struggled with how to present this mechanism to my students, and

found that there is a pretty good explanation in Bensky's formula book under

Gui Zhi Tang. He explains that in this presentation, " the protective qi is

slightly weak. When it rises to the surface to fend off wind-cold, fever and

chills are produced. This takes all of its strength and it is unable to

adequately perform its other functions, such as guarding the nutritive qi.

The nutritive qi therefore becomes unstable and is unable to contain the

fluids. The resulting sweating does not have the full force of the

protective qi behind it, and thus does not lead to any improvement in the

condition. "

 

For this condition, you need to gently diaphorese but also protect fluids,

which is why Bai Shao is there, to " benefit the yin " and contain the fluids.

 

Have you looked in the Practical Dictionary? It must have a detailed

explanation.

 

Julie

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" Rick " <j.kamps2

 

Monday, November 24, 2003 8:48 AM

Nutritive and protective levels?

 

 

> hello , can someone tell me what it means when a herb adjust's the

> nutritive amd protective levels. I don't understands this mechanism

>

> Thanks and best wishes

>

> Rick

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, Julie Chambers <info@j...>

wrote:

> Dear Rick,

>

> I have struggled with how to present this mechanism to my students, and

> found that there is a pretty good explanation in Bensky's formula book under

> Gui Zhi Tang.

 

best discussion in mitchell's SHL on gui zhi tang patterns.

 

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I thought the easy explaination was the typical army analogy. Wei

Qi (protective level) was the front line defense and Ying Qi

(nutritive level) was the support. If you don't feed the troops or

resupply the ammunition, they won't last long at all. When an herb

adjusts the Ying and Wei, it's getting the supply routes open again

so there's enough force to expel the Xie qi.

Geoff

 

> -

> " Rick " <j.kamps2@c...>

>

> > hello , can someone tell me what it means when a herb adjust's

the

> > nutritive amd protective levels. I don't understands this

mechanism

> >

> > Thanks and best wishes

> >

> > Rick

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okay (all) , thanks for the information!

Julie mentioned about the practical dictionary... I've seen the name of this

book for several times in the emails from this list but can't find it on the

Internet. Maybe an ISBN number?

 

Thanks and best wishes

 

Rick

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yingsuke2002

Tuesday, November 25, 2003 7:01 AM

Re: Nutritive and protective levels?

 

 

I thought the easy explaination was the typical army analogy. Wei

Qi (protective level) was the front line defense and Ying Qi

(nutritive level) was the support. If you don't feed the troops or

resupply the ammunition, they won't last long at all. When an herb

adjusts the Ying and Wei, it's getting the supply routes open again

so there's enough force to expel the Xie qi.

Geoff

 

> -

> " Rick " <j.kamps2@c...>

>

> > hello , can someone tell me what it means when a herb adjust's

the

> > nutritive amd protective levels. I don't understands this

mechanism

> >

> > Thanks and best wishes

> >

> > Rick

 

 

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