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Hi All, & Hi Are,

 

Are wrote:

> Is it true that the abbreviation for the Liver meridian now is

> changed to LR, and that LV now is the name of another meridian?

> Are

 

I do not know of any internationally agreed (globally used), codes

for the Channels. Depending on the author(s), the codes for Liver

include: Liv, LIV, LV, Lv, LR, H (=hepar), and many more!

 

Also, there is no internationally agreed (globally agreed) standard

for coding the points.

 

For example, Zusanli is also called Zu San Li, Tsu San Li and

coded ST36, St36, St 36, ST 36, ST-36, St-36, E36, etc. etc

The problem is worse for point numbers between 1 and 9, for

example, ST01, St01, St 1, ST 1, ST1, St1, ST-1, St-1, E1.

 

Digital storage and sorting/retrieval of point codes would be easier if

one used a standard convention (2-capitalised alpha, 2-numeric) for

all points, using the following codes:

LU, LI, ST, SP, HT, SI, BL, KI, PC, TH, GB, LV, CV, GV. For

example, LU01 and GV28.

 

For years, I have tried unsuccessfully to get IVAS to adapt that

convention. Failure to agree an international standard on a simple

concept like the Channel and Point Codes gives little hope for the

much bigger task of reaching interbational agreement on the much

more complex standardisation of the myriads of medical terms in

TCM!

 

 

 

 

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On Dec 1, 2003, at 9:20 AM, wrote:

 

> I do not know of any internationally agreed (globally used), codes

> for the Channels. Depending on the author(s), the codes for Liver

> include: Liv, LIV, LV, Lv, LR, H (=hepar), and many more!

>

> Also, there is no internationally agreed (globally agreed) standard

> for coding the points.

 

The WHO has a standard for this, you might checking at their website,

not sure if anything is available on-line though.

 

> For example, Zusanli is also called Zu San Li, Tsu San Li

 

This is an issue of transliteration schemes. The wade-giles method that

came out of Yale University in the 20's, I believe used this method and

some publishers still follow this theme in which the character for foot

would be spelled " Tsu " .

 

More recently, the Pin Yin method was developed. According to one of my

Chinese language teachers, it actually came out of the Soviet Union.

This is where foot will be spelled " Zu " .

 

This is also the reason for the herb Dang Gui (Pin Yin) showing up as

Tang Kwei (Wade-Giles) or Gui Zhi (Pin YIn) published as Kwei Tzu

(Wade-Giles). If you say all of these things out loud, you'll realize

its the same word.

 

As for putting all the characters together into one word such as

zusanli versus Zu San Li, this too is a style choice made by an author

or publisher.

 

 

 

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-Adlai Stevenson

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Hi All, & Al,

 

Al Stone wrote:

 

Phil wrote: >>> I do not know of any internationally agreed (globally

used), codes for the Channels. Depending on the author(s), the

codes for Liver include: Liv, LIV, LV, Lv, LR, H (=hepar), and many

more! Also, there is no internationally agreed (globally agreed)

standard for coding the points. Phil

 

Al replied:

> WHO has a standard for this. You might check at their website, not

> sure if anything is available on-line though.

 

The WHO codes are published as a booklet, but are are not given at

www.who.int/medicines/library/trm/acupuncture/acupnomenclsecond.shtml

 

I saw an earlier version, but the problem is that the WHO Standard was not

accepted globally.

 

>>> For example, Zusanli is also called Zu San Li, Tsu San Li

 

> This is an issue of transliteration schemes. The wade-giles method

> that came out of Yale University in the 20's, I believe used this

> method and some publishers still follow this theme in which the

> character for foot would be spelled " Tsu " . More recently, the Pin

> Yin method was developed. According to one of my Chinese language

> teachers, it actually came out of the Soviet Union. This is where

> foot will be spelled " Zu " . This is also the reason for the herb

> Dang Gui (Pin Yin) showing up as Tang Kwei (Wade-Giles) or Gui Zhi

> (Pin YIn) published as Kwei Tzu (Wade-Giles). If you say all of

> these things out loud, you'll realize its the same word. As for

> putting all the characters together into one word such as zusanli

> versus Zu San Li, this too is a style choice made by an author or

> publisher. Al Stone "

 

I know the problem but it will remain a problem until the main schools, authors

and researchers use a common terminology. Perhaps there will never be a

globally-accepted terminology.

 

WHO is preparing " International standard terminology on acupuncture for basic

training " ; see www.who.int/medicines/library/trm/acupuncture/terminolacup.sht

ml but unless THAT is accepted globally, it will remain another failed " paper

exercise " .

Best regards,

 

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WORK : Teagasc Research Management, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland

Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0]

 

HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland

Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0]

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