wei correction

[Guest guest]

Todd said: " while the idea of wei qi stagnation may not be " textbook "

per

se, I think it is implicit, both in ma huang tang pattern and the phlegm

accumulation I describe. "

 

Thomas said: However, the wei qi did not stagnate in the MHT patient

until the cold

attack. It is only the cold attacking from the exterior that caused the

log

jam, right?

 

Thomas,

 

I was confused about your question about this. I thought you were

attributing your own quote to me. I think you are correct, the cold

did not stagnate in the MHT patient until after the cold invasion. So

my statement is incorrect in regard to this pattern. So the question

is why did the invasion occur in this pt? and we are back to

instability of wei qi, right? Perhaps the yang constitution is excess,

but also open to the exterior due to heat opening the pores. While he

gui zhi tang type is open due to vacuity.

 

 

 

 

Chinese Herbs

 

FAX:

 

 

[Guest guest]

, wrote:

So the question is why did the invasion occur in this pt? and we

are back to instability of wei qi, right? Perhaps the yang

constitution is excess, but also open to the exterior due to heat

opening the pores. While he gui zhi tang type is open due to

vacuity. >>>

 

:

 

Questions like this suggest Bob Demonae's contention that we need to

also look at the pathomechanism to correctly diagnose and treat the

patient (I hope I'm not misrepresenting his ideas). These diagnostic

discussions seem to flounder without them.

 

I was listening to his PCOM lecture in the car on the way home from

Denver last night, and was impressed that, according to him, this

information was available in the literature but infrequently

translated or discussed. I was interested in his ideas because, in

the Dong Han system, the pathomechanism is always part of the

diagnosis. It would make little sense to say someone is spleen xu

but give no reason why it is happening, because it simply takes

things out of context and often misses the root. This whole approach

reminds me of the dynamics offered in 5-Phases that was eliminated

in academic modern CM.

 

 

Jim Ramholz

[Guest guest]

, " James Ramholz " <jramholz@m...>

wrote:

 

:

>

> Questions like this suggest Bob Demonae's contention that we need to

> also look at the pathomechanism to correctly diagnose and treat the

> patient (I hope I'm not misrepresenting his ideas). These diagnostic

> discussions seem to flounder without them.

 

yes.

 

This whole approach

> reminds me of the dynamics offered in 5-Phases that was eliminated

> in academic modern CM.

>

 

 

the problem is that this info is not translated. the dynamics are there for all

who can

read, though. its not a flaw of modern CM; its a gap in the transmission of

the

literature.