Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Here is the type of thing that will make it hard for the FDA to regulate our remedies separately from other DSHEA regulated supplements. What happens when it becomes known that there are products on the market used by chinese herbalists that contain large amounts of ephedra. these products are available to the general public at herb shops, coops and the internet. I doubt the presence of other herbs in the formula would be a deterrent. Maybe ma huang tang or ma xing shi gan tang in pill form will be the next big ephedra source for weightlifters, thrillseekers and the obese. What happens then? Remember we are dealing with either desperate, fanatical or fearless users who will not be deterred by any warnings. they will, as these groups always have, experiment and take risks. Posted on Wed, Dec. 31, 2003- complete article at: http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/7605131.htm U.S. to ban ephedra herbal supplements By Jessica Portner Mercury News Even if ephedra is no longer on retail shelves, bodybuilders and competitive athletes seeking a quick pick-me-up may find a way to buy it. The black market for drugs on the Internet is booming and other countries continue to sell the substance, although it is illegal to import to the United States. ``When they seem to ban one thing something else comes up. There are always people looking for an added edge legally or illegally,'' said Perry Archibald, a trainer with the Stanford University Athletic Department, who stressed he knows of no Stanford athletes who use ephedra. ``Those die-hard consumers will find it another route.'' Chinese Herbs FAX: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Today, we had someone ( a mid-west clinic) order a quart of ma huang from us. We usually go through it in ounces. And I can¹t recall ever selling ma huang that was not compounded into a formula. They¹re starting to hoard it! Cara > Here is the type of thing that will make it hard for the FDA to > regulate our remedies separately from other DSHEA regulated > supplements. What happens when it becomes known that there are > products on the market used by chinese herbalists that contain large > amounts of ephedra. these products are available to the general public > at herb shops, coops and the internet. I doubt the presence of other > herbs in the formula would be a deterrent. Maybe ma huang tang or ma > xing shi gan tang in pill form will be the next big ephedra source for > weightlifters, thrillseekers and the obese. What happens then? > Remember we are dealing with either desperate, fanatical or fearless > users who will not be deterred by any warnings. they will, as these > groups always have, experiment and take risks. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Cara, I am curious what you mean by a " quart of ma huang " - was it in a liquid form? Julie - " Cara Frank " <herbbabe Friday, January 09, 2004 5:56 PM Re: ephedra black market? no need Today, we had someone ( a mid-west clinic) order a quart of ma huang from us. We usually go through it in ounces. And I can¹t recall ever selling ma huang that was not compounded into a formula. They¹re starting to hoard it! Cara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Yes. Herbal concentrate Cara > Cara, > > I am curious what you mean by a " quart of ma huang " - was it in a liquid > form? > > Julie > > > - > " Cara Frank " <herbbabe > > Friday, January 09, 2004 5:56 PM > Re: ephedra black market? no need > > > Today, we had someone ( a mid-west clinic) order a quart of ma huang from > us. We usually go through it in ounces. And I can¹t recall ever selling ma > huang that was not compounded into a formula. They¹re starting to hoard it! > Cara > > > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including board > approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a free > discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 At 3:59 PM -0800 1/9/04, wrote: >What happens when it becomes known that there are >products on the market used by chinese herbalists that contain large >amounts of ephedra. these products are available to the general public >at herb shops, coops and the internet. -- If the state (CA, NY etc) and the FDA makes ma huang illegal, then these Chinese herb stores would be taking a big risk of prosecution if they were to sell directly to the public. So, doesn't the combined exception for Chinese remedies by the FDA, and for licensed Chinese medical practitioners by the states, mean that effectively ma huang containing products may only be available through practitioners? Rory -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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