Guest guest Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 Hi All, Arising from a query on the TCM List, can AP/herbs really make a big difference in advanced renal failure? Have practitioners on this List treated people or animals with confirmed severe renal failure, especially human patients on dialysis? If so, could you summarise your results? Best regards, Email: < WORK : Teagasc Research Management, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0] HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 , " " <@e...> wrote: > Hi All, > > Arising from a query on the TCM List, can AP/herbs really make a > big difference in advanced renal failure? have you seen wei li's book on TCM nephrology from blue poppy. I believe it includes case studies and clinial audits. she was my teacher and claims reversal is possible in certain cases. she called dong chong xia cao " herbal dialysis " . However it was not called for in all cases. Research shows da haung is useful in some cases. I belive there are medline citations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 Hi all, some weeks before X-mas I was called by a dog-owner who was going to euthanasia the dog the day after. It had renal failure, with blood urea on 65. He came the same evening for treatment, and I surprisingly found no renal problem on the pulse. I found a Pericardium deficiency. I treated only PC09, and two days later the urea was 35, and today the dog is OK. My experience is that if the kidney fail , and I find KI deficiency on the pulse, the situation is severe. But if I find PC or HT on the pulse, USUALLY the dog or human recover quite soon. Are Are Simeon Thoresen arethore http://home.online.no/~arethore/ - ; pa-l ; pVA-L Cc: aCUPUNCTURE ; vBMA Tuesday, January 13, 2004 5:49 PM Herbal Tx of dialysis patients? Hi All, Arising from a query on the TCM List, can AP/herbs really make a big difference in advanced renal failure? Have practitioners on this List treated people or animals with confirmed severe renal failure, especially human patients on dialysis? If so, could you summarise your results? Best regards, Email: < WORK : Teagasc Research Management, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0] HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 A teacher of mine at school told us of a patient here that got off of dialysis with Ap/herbs. It was written up somewhere, but I can't find it right now. It took a year of treatment though. Treatment was basically straightforward TCM Ki tonification. Geoff -------------- Message: 13 Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:49:04 -0000 " " < Herbal Tx of dialysis patients? Hi All, Arising from a query on the TCM List, can AP/herbs really make a big difference in advanced renal failure? Have practitioners on this List treated people or animals with confirmed severe renal failure, especially human patients on dialysis? If so, could you summarise your results? Best regards, Email: < Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 Hi All, & Hi > have you seen wei li's book on TCM nephrology from blue poppy. No, I missed that one. > I believe it includes case studies and clinial audits. she was my > teacher and claims reversal is possible in certain cases. she > called Dongchongxiacao " herbal dialysis " . However it was not > called for in all cases. Research shows Dahaung is useful in > some cases. I belive there are Medline citations. Todd Many thanks. Best regards, Email: < WORK : Teagasc Research Management, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0] HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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