Guest guest Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 Does anyone have experience in reducing severe scoliotic curves in female adolescents who are still growing rapidly? Thank you. Joyce - " Par Scott " <parufus Thursday, January 15, 2004 6:03 PM Re: Digest Number 1839 - dental implants > On a side note, bridges can also be problematic froma cranio-sacral > perspective, especially when they span the midline, they tend to lock up > some stuff that would rather move. > > Par > - > <snakeoil.works > > Thursday, January 15, 2004 1:39 AM > Re: Digest Number 1839 - dental implants > > > > Frances, > > Yes, willies, indeed. This is apparently going to be an issue of > individual > > sensitivity, as with so many things. Entering a risk zone like surgery > calls > > for good premeditation. Thank you for your observation. I guess the idea > of > > a chunk of titanium embedded just under my sinuses gives me pause. > Meridian > > effects and all that. Maybe i should pierce my tongue just to desensitize > my > > squeamishness ;-) > > > > And oh yeah...what about subsequent MRIs? > > > > ab > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Dental implants > > > Ann, > > > This may be a unique case, but someone I know who had many dental > > > implants now has excessive, uncontrollable salivation. He is a clarinet > > > player and the salivation is a real problem. I know many people who've > > > had one or two implants and have apparently tolerated it well. Yet I > > > would wonder about the metal and bone issue you mention. The thought > > > gives me the willies. > > > Frances > > > > > > >Does anyone have opinion as to the effect of dental implants? I'm > > referring > > > >to any adverse effects of metal inserted in bone.( Of course, this > issue > > > >might extend to other types of metal appliances installed in one's > > > >bio-structure.) Anyone had occasion to observe enough adverse events to > > draw > > > >some considered opinion? Any views of this among the Japanese > > practioners? > > > > > > > >The time has come for me to consider this for myself and i am, well, > > > >squeamish. > > > > > > > >Ann > > > > > > > > > > Frances > > > > > > > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including > board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a free > discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 I worked with a teacher who treated a number of girls with scoliosis with great success - success that was even measured by the girls' biomed doctors. I also had one young girl as a client myself. This was with the work called Body-Mind Centering® (before I started studying TCM). But to try to say in TCM what we were doing - there seemed to be two major patterns in girls: disharmony between liver and KI, which produced a lumbar/sacral curve or a disharmony between liver and spleen, which produced a higher, thoracic curve (scoliotic curves in boys, which are less common, are seen to go even highter, into LU area). In all cases the liver energy was overpowering the other organs. From personal experience I would say that the Spleen channel seems most important in balancing L-R symmetry, especially opening channel all the way up to SP 21. I'm sorry I can't address this more from the point of view of herbs, but perhaps earth-tonifying/wood reducing formulas would be a place to start. -roseanne s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 I worked with a teacher who treated a number of girls with scoliosis with great success >>>I think the cause makes a large difference. For example it is very difficult to change scoliosis in patients with marfen syndrome Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Thanks for the responses to my scoliosis question. I am specifically asking about this issue for my daughter, who the orthopedists would like to schedule for surgery already. We have been doing several different things since we discovered the curve(mid back, and compensatory curve lower) in June, and I have been researching on the Internet. Since I am studying Chinese Medine (only in my 2nd year), I have been wondering if it is a problem with Jing, or LIV/SP disharmony as you mentioned. She did have some type of infection (hepatitis supposedly brought on by mono, approximately 3 years ago,) doesn't have great appetite (very skinny), was a gymnast (won many medals!), needed glasses for distance (1 year ago), played the violin (standing posture one sided?) since 2nd grade, and hasn't yet received first menstruation. My question is: if it is a problem with Jing, then I assume the chances of actually " moving the bones, " seems slim. If earth/wood disharmony, with proper diet, herbs, acupuncture, massage, and everything else we are doing (therapeutic Iyengar yoga class) - if it is possible to actually get the bones to move back? Right now we have actually stabilized the curve, although she grew taller. Thanks for all of your help. BTW, where can I find out more about Body-Mind Centering? Joyce - <ra6151 <joyces; Saturday, January 17, 2004 5:21 PM Re: inquiry about adolescent scoliosis > I worked with a teacher who treated a number of girls with scoliosis with > great success - success that was even measured by the girls' biomed doctors. I > also had one young girl as a client myself. This was with the work called > Body-Mind Centering® (before I started studying TCM). But to try to say in TCM > what we were doing - there seemed to be two major patterns in girls: disharmony > between liver and KI, which produced a lumbar/sacral curve or a disharmony > between liver and spleen, which produced a higher, thoracic curve (scoliotic > curves in boys, which are less common, are seen to go even highter, into LU > area). In all cases the liver energy was overpowering the other organs. From > personal experience I would say that the Spleen channel seems most important in > balancing L-R symmetry, especially opening channel all the way up to SP 21. I'm > sorry I can't address this more from the point of view of herbs, but perhaps > earth-tonifying/wood reducing formulas would be a place to start. > -roseanne s. > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 who the orthopedists would like to schedule for surgery already. >>>How many degrees in the curve alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 Thoracic curve was calculated at 59 degrees in June, and now 55. There's also a compensatory curve in lumbar area, which is quite large, but the doctors don't seem to be too concerned about (they say that it will " correct itself " after surgery. Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 Thoracic curve was calculated at 59 degrees in June, and now 55. There's also a compensatory curve in lumbar area, which is quite large, but the doctors don't seem to be too concerned about (they say that it will " correct itself " after surgery. Any suggestions? >>>>That is quite large but if it reducing you may want to wait. How old is the kid? Also any connective tissue problems? Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 she just turned 14, hasn't received her first period yet, and is going through growth spurts. The doctors don't think that it's reducing, since +/- 5 degrees could be just a difference in calculation. I'm wondering if it is a problem with Jing, or weak earth. Two years ago it wasn't noticed, and 4 years ago the spine was straight. There aren't connective tissue problems that we know of, but I'm wondering if that's the problem. Tendons, muscles on outer legs and the side of the spine with the curve were very tight; now less tense on spine, after massage, yoga and acupuncture, but still rigid on legs. Within the past 2 years she began needing glasses for distance, and wore braces. I am looking into the connection with TMJ and scoliosis since she also has a " click " when she opens mouth. But no pain whatsoever. Should I try herbs? . -- Original Message ----- " Alon Marcus " <alonmarcus Monday, January 19, 2004 1:05 AM Re: inquiry about adolescent scoliosis > Thoracic curve was calculated at 59 degrees in June, and now 55. There's > also a compensatory curve in lumbar area, which is quite large, but the > doctors don't seem to be too concerned about (they say that it will " correct > itself " after surgery. Any suggestions? > >>>>That is quite large but if it reducing you may want to wait. How old is the kid? Also any connective tissue problems? > Alon > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 There aren't connective tissue problems that we know of, but I'm wondering if that's the problem. Tendons, muscles on outer legs and the side of the spine with the curve were very tight; now less tense on spine, after massage, yoga and acupuncture, but still rigid on legs. >>>>>>>It is sometime associated with loose connective tissues and then surgery may be needed Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 BTW, where can I find out more about Body-Mind Centering? Joyce Try these websites: www.bmcassoc.org or www.bodymindcentering.com Pat ============================================================================== NOTE: The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not read, use or disseminate the information. Although this email and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft LLP for any loss or damage arising in any way from its use. ============================================================================== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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