Guest guest Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 Dear Group, I have been teaching that you can insert or inhale, nasally, powdered herbs, like Bai Zhi and Jing Jie, for various treatments to the nose. But I have never actually done it! A student asked me how to get the herb out once it is in? Please advise. Julie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 In a message dated 1/17/04 9:48:03 AM, attiliodalberto writes: << My wife has been using this herbal powder for years and has noticed significant results, to the point at which her nose shape is slimmer. After seeing this for myself i strongly believe that phlegm can cause abnormal nose shapes just by its sheer quantity. >> yes, I've noticed this nose slimming in myself after persistent treatment with raw herbal formulas for upper burner phlegm. ---roseanne s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Rinse with a neti pot? Julie- what are your sources for this info? What about rinsing with decoctions ( I¹m brainstorming out loud here)? Cara > Dear Group, > > I have been teaching that you can insert or inhale, nasally, powdered herbs, > like Bai Zhi and Jing Jie, for various treatments to the nose. But I have > never actually done it! A student asked me how to get the herb out once it > is in? Please advise. > > Julie > > > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including board > approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a free > discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Use a neti pot, or your local equivalent, but I think that herbs are supposed to stay in place for a while to have their therapeutic effect. Another method for getting things up the nose that is less sneeze inducing is to use a twisted strip of paper (a la third grade bloody nose remedy) moistened with powdered herb on it, it is a little less " shotgun " (in more ways than one). In the neti I usually tell people to use plain salted water (makes it isotonic and more comfortable), but I have tried small amounts of powdered herbs in the solution (goldenseal) which was very effective but unbelievably bitter and nasty. There is a cheap plastic neti available online which comes with a kit of instructions, a little spoon for salt, some packages of salt with a little baking soda as a pH buffer. I suppose this constitutes a plug, so if you want the contact info you may write off list. Par - " Julie Chambers " <info Saturday, January 17, 2004 12:14 AM Nasal treatments > Dear Group, > > I have been teaching that you can insert or inhale, nasally, powdered herbs, > like Bai Zhi and Jing Jie, for various treatments to the nose. But I have > never actually done it! A student asked me how to get the herb out once it > is in? Please advise. > > Julie > > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 I've personally used a herbal powder from South Korea. You sniff it in much like snuff through a small plastic tube. Almost immediately, the herbs reactive and draw vast quantities of phlegm out from the nose. The herbal powder comes out with the phlegm as you blow your nose. My wife has been using this herbal powder for years and has noticed significant results, to the point at which her nose shape is slimmer. After seeing this for myself i strongly believe that phlegm can cause abnormal nose shapes just by its sheer quantity. I'm unable to tell you want constitutes the herbal powder as its specially made up by a traditional local doctor in South Korea. Attilio Julie Chambers <info@j...> wrote: > Dear Group, > > I have been teaching that you can insert or inhale, nasally, powdered herbs, > like Bai Zhi and Jing Jie, for various treatments to the nose. But I have > never actually done it! A student asked me how to get the herb out once it > is in? Please advise. > > Julie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Use a neti pot, or your local equivalent, but I think that herbs are supposed to stay in place for a while to have their therapeutic effect. Another method for getting things up the nose that is less sneeze inducing is to use a twisted strip of paper (a la third grade bloody nose remedy) moistened with powdered herb on it, it is a little less " shotgun " (in more ways than one). >>>Oil extracts are used in TCM often alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 I'm unable to tell you want constitutes the herbal powder as its specially made up by a traditional local doctor in South Korea. >>>How do you get it alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Rinse with a neti pot? Julie- what are your sources for this info? What about rinsing with decoctions ( I¹m brainstorming out loud here)? Cara I can't remember if Bensky talks about this, but I think he does, and my herbal teacher also suggested it, both for infections and congestion, and also for nosebleeds. Thanks to all who answered. Julie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 My wife is Korean and has her mother send it to the UK where we live. Attilio " Alon Marcus " <alonmarcus@w...> wrote: > I'm unable to tell you want constitutes the herbal powder as its > specially made up by a traditional local doctor in South Korea. > > >>>How do you get it > alon > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 Hi Julie, I used to use an herbal snuff, the recipe for which I found in the Handbook of Internal (Chinese?) Medicine (sorry, I'm unsure of the title and I don't have the book with me). It contains bing pian, one of the huangs, cang er zi, and xin yi hua, I believe. I used to use it for chronic sinus congestion. Tastes really bad! Anyway, as for getting the snuff to come back out, I also used a warm salt water wash. It removes most of the herbs; nasal mucus removes the rest within a day. By the way, I no longer use the herbal snuff. Last time I tried it, it seemed as if I had developed a severe allergy to it. Good luck with your nose! Julie Chambers <info wrote: Dear Group, I have been teaching that you can insert or inhale, nasally, powdered herbs, like Bai Zhi and Jing Jie, for various treatments to the nose. But I have never actually done it! A student asked me how to get the herb out once it is in? Please advise. Julie Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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