Guest guest Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 According to Ken Wilber, the abstract ideas from any field only have any validity when confirmed by the consensus of the community of experts in that field. Certain things can be confirmed with no special training. One can easily be shown that one rock weighs more than another, for example. Humans have the innate capacity to gauge such things. So most of us can easily agree upon things like color, size and shape regardless of culture or training. However when it comes to the laws of thermodynamics or the four forces of physics or the theory of evolution, we must rely on mathematicians, engineers and archaeologists to provide the evidence of these invisible forces. If the community of scientists generally regards a thing as true, such as evolution, I choose to accept that as the current " truth " . Any number of alternate and apparently logical explanations and theories can be proposed for anything. How is an outsider to genetics, such as myself for example, to assess fringe ideas. A layperson can easily be swayed by logic if they are not knowledgeable of the initial premises of an argument. If the initial premises have been rejected by the mainstream scientific community, then the entire argument is invalid. You can say that the mainstream idea is actually wrong, but I am in no position to judge such a radical statement, so I view it with skepticism until the consensus concurs. No amount of logical debate on such ideas will ever sway me because that is not my sole criteria for acceptance of new ideas. If I categorically reject an initial premise, I really have no interest in hearing the logic that arises from the rejected premise. For example, the initial premise that the world was created by an anthropomorphic deity is the end of any discussion I might have engaged in. This is my admitted bias. The scientific consensus will change if and when a preponderance of evidence exists AND the opponents of the new are no longer able to fight the proponents of the new. Its not one or the other. It must be both, IMO. Chinese Herbs FAX: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 According to Ken Wilber, the abstract ideas from any field only have any validity when confirmed by the consensus of the community of experts in that field. The use of the term " validity " should be qualified. An idea can be valid without consensus or confirmation. Stephen Morrissey Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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