NY Times Article on Chinese Medicine

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Industry figures of Infertility clinics hover around 12% success rate

(www.globalchange.com). The HFEA(human feetilization and embryology authority)

in

England reports birthrates vary from 0-50% at individual clinics. They are

investigating due to lack of results and such exorbitant costs. In U.S., growth

of

IVF clinics is 20%. Yet results still yield such poor results that FDA is also

considering investigation of clinics. Medline search of infertility or HPO

axis and acupuncture will yield no less than a dozen well designed research

studies.

 

Ken

 

Ken

 

 

 

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In last Sunday's New York Times, there was a short " Coping " article by

Anemona Hartocollis describing the experience of several women with

infertility problems not responsive to WM treatment, who all visited a Dr.

Lu in Chinatown, and who subsequently became pregnant. One patient

believes the treatments " reduced her stress and anxiety over her failures

to conceive. " When asked the cause of the problem, Dr. Lu told one patient

" Your womb is cold " and, when she looked skeptical, added " It's a Chinese

thing. " He elaborated by saying, " You have to improve energy flow -- this

is Qi -- and balance yin and yang of the body. Everything has yin and

yang. Sun is yang and moon is yin; bright things are yang, dark is yin.

Some organs belong to yang, some to yin. " He was described as wearing a

white coat and having studied medicine -- " 90 percent Western, 10 percent

Chinese -- in Shanghai. " Dr. Melvin Thornton, medical director of the

Center for Women's Reproductive Care at Columia University, the WM doctors

of one of the patients, said, " The benefit of acupuncture may amount to no

more than individual attention or subconscious motivation. Or there could

be something more to it, like improving blood flow. When you talk about

medicine, you need good clinical trials -- randomized, blinded, with

thousands of patients. That study has never been done. There are a lot of

things in medicine we don't understand. I tell my patients as long as it's

not going to harm you, and not going to cost you a lot of money, then you

can try it. " He had the last (medical) word in the article. The patient

said, " Whatever the reason, I've got this great kid, and that was the

goal. "

 

Pat

 

 

 

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http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/08/nyregion/thecity/08colm.html

 

 

At 4:43 PM -0500 2/10/04, Pat Ethridge wrote:

>In last Sunday's New York Times, there was a short " Coping " article by

>Anemona Hartocollis describing the experience of several women with

>infertility problems not responsive to WM treatment, who all visited a Dr.

>Lu in Chinatown, and who subsequently became pregnant. One patient

>believes the treatments " reduced her stress and anxiety over her failures

>to conceive. " When asked the cause of the problem, Dr. Lu told one patient

> " Your womb is cold " and, when she looked skeptical, added " It's a Chinese

>thing. " He elaborated by saying, " You have to improve energy flow -- this

>is Qi -- and balance yin and yang of the body. Everything has yin and

>yang. Sun is yang and moon is yin; bright things are yang, dark is yin.

>Some organs belong to yang, some to yin. " He was described as wearing a

>white coat and having studied medicine -- " 90 percent Western, 10 percent

>Chinese -- in Shanghai. " Dr. Melvin Thornton, medical director of the

>Center for Women's Reproductive Care at Columia University, the WM doctors

>of one of the patients, said, " The benefit of acupuncture may amount to no

>more than individual attention or subconscious motivation. Or there could

>be something more to it, like improving blood flow. When you talk about

>medicine, you need good clinical trials -- randomized, blinded, with

>thousands of patients. That study has never been done. There are a lot of

>things in medicine we don't understand. I tell my patients as long as it's

>not going to harm you, and not going to cost you a lot of money, then you

>can try it. " He had the last (medical) word in the article. The patient

>said, " Whatever the reason, I've got this great kid, and that was the

>goal. "

 

 

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