Guest guest Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 Hi All, While the results of the large German Study have been leaked prematurely, I understand that it is not over yet. Even if its authors' conclusions stand, my belief in, or approach to, AP will not alter because of that study; it simply is irrelevant to me. Is AP only as good as placebo? Before we all dump our AP needles and hurry to register for another career, maybe we should take such so-called controlled trials of AP with a large pinch of salt. For some, the word " placebo " is derogatory; for me it is not. I have argued before that all great healers want to help the client. That is indeed a placebo effect (wanting to please). So, really good AP therapy is probably a mixture of powerful placebo + conditioning the human client's (even the animal patient's) mind by instilling trust and confidence, + professional skill and knowledge, based on deep study of the TCM and modern principles of AP. There ARE a few controlled studies that showed significant clinical or physiological benefits in favour of needling " Real Points " as compared with nearby " non-active " points. However, for almost 30 years, I have argued that controlled trials should avoid " Sham Needling " , or stimulation of " non-active " points. This is because we cannnot be certain (in advance) that the " Non-Active " points really are that. As many on the lists have said, any stimulus anywhere on the body can have some effects. If they have some positive effect, the comparison between the " Non- Active " and " Active " points can show little difference. Therefore, the conclusion that " Real AP is no better than placebo " can be very misleading. IMO, the best (most productive) research in AP would be to compare the overall clinical results results of a huge population of of patients, randomised to 3 groups: (A) treated by skilled AP practitioners; (B) treated by skilled allopaths, and © treated by combining both therapies. I would expect the overall clinical outcomes results to be C > A > B, or C > A or B, with little difference between A or B. As regards specificity of acupoint effects, on one extreme, some would claim that needling ANY point can activate a similar response to needling any other point. I do not believe that, although I have heard that some Masters of AP use very few points, and can get dozens of different (specifically desired) effects from needling, say, LI04 or ST36 in different ways. On the other extreme there are those who say that each point has its specific effects. For example BL21 (ST Shu) works best on ST. I do not believe that either! We know that several spinal segments innervate each internal organ, so needling any point from BL17-18 to BL24-25, or their outer partners, or the Huato or GV Points nearby, would be expected to have some effect on ST also. Also, I have no doubt that BL21 also influences LV, GB, SP. TH. KI. uterus, etc. Would there be a big difference between AP at (GV26 + KI01) in Emergencies (coma, apnoea, shock, etc) versus (say) AP at (GV20 + KI03)? Would there be a big difference between AP at (PC06, ST36, BL21, CV12) in nausea/vomiting versus (say) AP at (PC03, ST32, BL12, CV23)? Would there be a big difference between AP at Fenglong-ST40 ( " Banxia " Point) in profuse sputum/phlegm versus (say) AP at GB35 or GB36? Are Thoresen has reported that AP at Taichong-LV03 is effective in mammary cancer. Would anyone care to speculate if needling at GB40 or GB41 would have equally good effects as needling at LV03? The TRUTH probably lies somewhere between those two extremes (all points being equally effective versus specific points having very specific effects). There is definitely some clinical significance for TCM placing the SP and LV Channels on the big toe. The gout-liver connection is obvious. Have you ever seen necrosis of the lateral corner of the nailbed of the big toe in people on cancer chemotherapy? [LV is the main organ of detox for most toxins]. Have you seen an abscess of the medial corner of the nailbed of the big toe in people with classical SP Disharmony (unstable blood sugar, immunosuppression, obsession, Jeckyll & Hyde changeable mentality related to hypoglycaemia circa 1.5 hours after the last ingestion of carbohydrate, etc)? Finally, why do different acupuncturists (most of whom are getting good to excellent clinical results) use different points in the " same type " of cases? IMO, this is because of differences in their training and experience, but also because of differences in their mental paradigms and their intention. IMO, AP by a robot arm, no matter how precise and technically correct cannot give the same results as AP by a sympathetic practitioner who puts his Yi (intention directed by knowledge, instinct and love) into the therapeutic mix. Let us work to MAXIMISE the placebo effect, rather than consigning it to the dustbin. Best regards, Email: < WORK : Teagasc Research Management, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0] HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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