Guest guest Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 , " Teresa Hall " < Teresa.bodywork4u@w...> wrote: > Having been an " expert test writer " for the board, I know they spend allot > of time and money making it into a fair exam. > > Teresa Just out of curiosity, since I have no idea who writes board exam questions, what makes one an expert test writer? I believe Teresa referred to herself as such in the above post. According to the board, Teresa Hall was licensed in august of 2001 in CA. I don't know if Teresa was licensed somewhere else previously. Since I don't know Teresa well, I would want to know what kind of practice load and professional teaching experience she had during this time. I would assume that these are several of the major criteria for writing expert test questions. Also past experience writing tests. Could you fill us in on what the criteria are since years of CA licensure are clearly not a factor? I have known several test writers, most of whom were relatively new licensees at the time. With all due respect, that does not strike me as " fair " at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 At 7:31 PM +0000 3/19/04, wrote: >I have known several test writers, most of whom were relatively new licensees >at the time. With all due respect, that does not strike me as " fair " at all. -- I think the term " expert test writer " is probably not meant to imply great expertise; rather, someone qualified in an area of expertise. There is probably an advantage to having relatively recent licensees as question writers, in that they are beginners and the test is meant to be entry level. At this point I could probably dream up all sorts of questions which would be a struggle for a well trained new graduate, as you probably could. Also, all questions written for the California exams go through a review process before they are included in the question bank. Rory -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 Hi Todd- I am soooooooooo flattered that you took the time out of your busy schedule to research my credentials! I have to admit I am so swamped seeing 45 plus patients a week that I certainly, could have not made time to research yours. If you would like to know what the criteria is for writing test questions, then perhap you should call the California State Board. I wonder why on earth you have not been contacted, I am sure it must be an oversight... Yours in health & prosperity Teresa Hall, L.Ac, M.S, Q.M.E. 619-517-1188 - " " < Friday, March 19, 2004 11:31 AM Test writing > , " Teresa Hall " < > Teresa.bodywork4u@w...> wrote: > > > Having been an " expert test writer " for the board, I know they spend allot > > of time and money making it into a fair exam. > > > > Teresa > > > Just out of curiosity, since I have no idea who writes board exam questions, > what makes one an expert test writer? I believe Teresa referred to herself as > such in the above post. According to the board, Teresa Hall was licensed in > august of 2001 in CA. I don't know if Teresa was licensed somewhere else > previously. Since I don't know Teresa well, I would want to know what kind of > practice load and professional teaching experience she had during this time. I > would assume that these are several of the major criteria for writing expert > test questions. Also past experience writing tests. Could you fill us in on > what the criteria are since years of CA licensure are clearly not a factor? I > have known several test writers, most of whom were relatively new licensees > at the time. With all due respect, that does not strike me as " fair " at all. > > > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2004 Report Share Posted March 20, 2004 , " Teresa Hall " <Teresa.bodywork4u@w...> wrote: > I am soooooooooo flattered that you took the time out of your busy > schedule to research my credentials! I have to admit I am so swamped seeing > 45 plus patients a week that I certainly, could have not made time to > research yours. If you would like to know what the criteria is for writing > test questions, then perhap you should call the California State Board. I > wonder why on earth you have not been contacted, I am sure it must be an > oversight... > > Yours in health & prosperity I was hoping for a serious reply to Todd's questions, because I, as I am sure many others, am interested in the answers. I'm not sure why you intentionally dodged the legitimate questions with sarcasm, but maybe you could reply again with the real answers? Brian C. Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2004 Report Share Posted March 20, 2004 , " Teresa Hall " < Teresa.bodywork4u@w...> wrote: I > wonder why on earth you have not been contacted, I am sure it must be an > oversight... You seem a bit defensive about your recent licensure. We all had to start somewhere, so this was hardly a personal attack. It was a comment on the board's criteria. However, I notice you chose to merely make some sarcastic comments rather than address my concerns about a test writer's prior experience writing tests or teaching in an academic setting. I think its pretty clear to everyone on this list that the credentials of a board exam writer are a perfectly legitimate topic, especially when said person claims expert status in this area. I hardly think that a recent graduate with no other experience in test writing or teaching is an expert in anything. If you are an experienced professional educator, that would offset your recent licensure in my mind. That is why I listed several criteria, not just one. So do you have such experience or do you think it is sufficient to just take potshots at me instead of addressing this legitimate concern? As for my credentials, I have never called myself an expert on anything. However since you bring it up, I have practiced for 11 years, published articles in professional journals, taught and supervised in academic settings for 11 years, created drug/herb interaction software, nurtured the world's most active forum on chinese medicine, pioneered online continuing education and host a highly regarded annual professional conference. I have written numerous tests in consultation with professional educators over this same 11 year period. I guess you do ask a good question. Why did they contact you instead of me? I must be TOO experienced. Now why would the board want inexperienced test writers. One can only surmise.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2004 Report Share Posted March 20, 2004 , Rory Kerr <rorykerr@o...> wrote: > > There is probably an advantage to having relatively recent licensees > as question writers, in that they are beginners and the test is meant > to be entry level. I disagree. The main criteria in writing a good test question is experience teaching and writing test questions. I believe you teach and everyone who does knows that writing good fair test questions is one of the hardest parts of the job. It takes years to master. It is a simple matter to determine if a question is appropriately entry level. I think that is handled much easier than the issue of poorly written test questions. Having taken the national and the CA exam, I can honestly say that one of the main reasons the former is regarded as so much harder than the latter is the incredibly lousy writing of the test questions in CA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2004 Report Share Posted March 21, 2004 Good for you, Teresa! I appreciate all that you do. I have heard that writing test questions is a tedious and time-consuming process. I'm glad someone as conscientious as you is on the team, and I like the way you handled the mean-spirited dialog on this e-list. Shows good character. Teresa Hall <Teresa.bodywork4u wrote: Hi Todd- I am soooooooooo flattered that you took the time out of your busy schedule to research my credentials! I have to admit I am so swamped seeing 45 plus patients a week that I certainly, could have not made time to research yours. If you would like to know what the criteria is for writing test questions, then perhap you should call the California State Board. I wonder why on earth you have not been contacted, I am sure it must be an oversight... Yours in health & prosperity Teresa Hall, L.Ac, M.S, Q.M.E. 619-517-1188 - " " < Friday, March 19, 2004 11:31 AM Test writing > , " Teresa Hall " < > Teresa.bodywork4u@w...> wrote: > > > Having been an " expert test writer " for the board, I know they spend allot > > of time and money making it into a fair exam. > > > > Teresa > > > Just out of curiosity, since I have no idea who writes board exam questions, > what makes one an expert test writer? I believe Teresa referred to herself as > such in the above post. According to the board, Teresa Hall was licensed in > august of 2001 in CA. I don't know if Teresa was licensed somewhere else > previously. Since I don't know Teresa well, I would want to know what kind of > practice load and professional teaching experience she had during this time. I > would assume that these are several of the major criteria for writing expert > test questions. Also past experience writing tests. Could you fill us in on > what the criteria are since years of CA licensure are clearly not a factor? I > have known several test writers, most of whom were relatively new licensees > at the time. With all due respect, that does not strike me as " fair " at all. > > > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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