Guest guest Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 > As of Noon on 3/30/04, CSOMA has 15 CC communication regarding the > Ephedra Petition and AOMAlliance has 9 CC's. So far, it looks like practitioners don't need to communicate how their medicine will be impacted by the loss of Ban Xia and Ma Huang. Sincerely, Bill Egloff President Crane Herb Company Bill CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This electronic communication, including any attachments, contains information from Crane Herb Company, Inc. which may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware of any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy or delete all electronic and hard copies of the communication, including attachments. If you would like to be removed from this sender's media database, please reply with the word " remove " in the subject line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 I'm sorry, I don't think I understand this email. Are you saying that CSOMA & AOM alliance have extensively corresponded (CC=carbon copy) with the FDA & we don't need to further expound upon the potential impact of a Ma Huang/Ban xia ban? Tim Sharpe William Egloff Tuesday, March 30, 2004 2:57 PM CC's to Ephedra Petition > As of Noon on 3/30/04, CSOMA has 15 CC communication regarding the > Ephedra Petition and AOMAlliance has 9 CC's. So far, it looks like practitioners don't need to communicate how their medicine will be impacted by the loss of Ban Xia and Ma Huang. Sincerely, Bill Egloff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 All, If we can't get the medicines because the FDA will not let anything through that contains ephedrine alkaloids, that's a pretty clear and umambiguous statement of what the FDa intends. Please read the following letter to AHPA members manufacturing and distributing Chinese meds. It sounds pretty ominous and unambiguous to me. Dear All, > > I would like to report on a conversation I had today with FDA > Import/Export Operation in San Pedro regarding a shipment we had coming > in from Japan. This is not directly related to the ongoing discussion on > Ephedra, but it is a new development that is definitely related to it. > > Our shipment has been on hold for weeks. Finally I managed to get > through and talk with a live person in the FDA office. I was told that > due to the two products that contain ma huang they have put the whole > shipment on hold (total shipment has 10 different products). Then I > started to explain to her about the " traditional Asian medicine " (with > confidence) and how strict we are in limiting the access to licensed > practitioners only. Her response was that she did not know anything > about it. All she was instructed to do was to hold ALL ma huang > containing products. > > Does this mean that FDA's internal " rule of engagement " has already > included Asian medicine products that contain ma huang in their banning > list? Can any of you share similar experiences? Do you have any > suggestions? > > Many thanks. > > Dan Wen > > __________________________ > Honso USA, Inc. > 4602 E Elwood Street, Ste 6 > Phoenix, AZ 85040 > Phone: 480-377-8787 > Fax: 480-377-6649 > www.HonsoUSA.co Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 > I'm sorry, I don't think I understand this email. Are you saying that > CSOMA > & AOM alliance have extensively corresponded (CC=carbon copy) with the > FDA & > we don't need to further expound upon the potential impact of a Ma > Huang/Ban > xia ban? > > Tim Sharpe > >> As of Noon on 3/30/04, CSOMA has 15 CC communication regarding the >> Ephedra Petition and AOMAlliance has 9 CC's. Let me clarify : so far only 15 CSOMA member practitioners have sent emails to their Congress reps or FDA and have also CC'd that correspondence to CSOMA. Only 9 AOMAlliance member practitioners have done the same with AOMAlliance. Maybe, more practitioners have emailed their Congress reps and FDA but they have NOT CC's to CSOMA or the Alliance. The purpose of the CC was so CSOMA and AOMAlliance could totlal their CC's and then tell AHPA, or any other lobbyist in DC they might work with, and then the AHPA's lobbyist will walk the floors of Congress and tell key Senators and Reps how many practitioners are concerned with the impact of the Final Ruling on Ephedra. AOMA is doing their own thing regarding CC totals and their lobbyist. Bill, is it ok to forward your communications on this matter to other TCM newslists? You've got a disclaimer tag in your email signature, but it seems that in general this is information that should be distributed widely in our profession. Tim, sorry for the disclaimer confusion. Please send this info to other groups or practitioners. > > > > Sincerely, > > Bill Egloff > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 William Egloff wrote : > Let me clarify : so far only 15 CSOMA member practitioners have sent > emails to their Congress reps or FDA and have also CC'd that > correspondence to CSOMA. Only 9 AOMAlliance member practitioners have > done the same with AOMAlliance. Maybe, more practitioners have emailed > their Congress reps and FDA but they have NOT CC's to CSOMA or the > Alliance. The purpose of the CC was so CSOMA and AOMAlliance could > totlal their CC's and then tell AHPA, or any other lobbyist in DC they > might work with, and then the AHPA's lobbyist will walk the floors of > Congress and tell key Senators and Reps how many practitioners are > concerned with the impact of the Final Ruling on Ephedra. AOMA is doing > their own thing regarding CC totals and their lobbyist. Okay - all these acronyms are getting very confusing. I think I have most of them figured out at this point, but what's CSOMA? In reference to the previous post, what's CFSAN? Is the email address cephedra only applicable to people involved with CSOMA and CFSAN? Judy Saxe, L.Ac. Qing Ting Acupuncture LLC Denver, Colorado (303) 964-1996 http://www.QingTingAcupuncture.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2004 Report Share Posted March 31, 2004 > CSOMA : California State Oriental Medicine Association Any other state associations should encourage their members to be vocal in their support of continued practitioner use of ephedra (Ma Huang) and pinellia(Ban Xia). CFSAN : Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition is a part of FDA and is responsible for making the decision regarding any change to the " Final Rule Declaring Dietary Supplements Containing Ephedrine Alkoloids Adulterated " . > cephedra is the email address that FDA & CFSAN would > like ALL correspondence regarding ephedra to go to. Practitioners, > patients, schools, associations should use this email address. > William Egloff wrote : > >> Let me clarify : so far only 15 CSOMA member practitioners have sent >> emails to their Congress reps or FDA and have also CC'd that >> correspondence to CSOMA. Only 9 AOMAlliance member practitioners have >> done the same with AOMAlliance. Maybe, more practitioners have emailed >> their Congress reps and FDA but they have NOT CC's to CSOMA or the >> Alliance. The purpose of the CC was so CSOMA and AOMAlliance could >> totlal their CC's and then tell AHPA, or any other lobbyist in DC they >> might work with, and then the AHPA's lobbyist will walk the floors of >> Congress and tell key Senators and Reps how many practitioners are >> concerned with the impact of the Final Ruling on Ephedra. AOMA is >> doing >> their own thing regarding CC totals and their lobbyist. > > Okay - all these acronyms are getting very confusing. I think I have > most > of them figured out at this point, but what's CSOMA? > In reference to the previous post, what's CFSAN? > Is the email address cephedra only applicable to people > involved with CSOMA and CFSAN? > > Judy Saxe, L.Ac. > Qing Ting Acupuncture LLC > Denver, Colorado > (303) 964-1996 > http://www.QingTingAcupuncture.com > > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, > including board approved continuing education classes, an annual > conference and a free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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