Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 guardian 12/10/03 reports: UK bans all but prozac for children as suppressed research shows high suicidal impulses (9%) on other SSRIs. Chinese Herbs FAX: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 I heard about this from a California psychiatrist a couple of months ago. He specifically mentioned Paxil in depressed children. I wonder if this is truly an adverse reaction to the drug or rather an ironic side effect of the drug's actually working. Way back in 1977, I remember the enigmatic Michael Broffman saying that you had to be careful treating people with depression. When they are very, very depressed, they can't motivate themselves to actually kill themselves. However, when they start to feel better and have more energy, that's when, in Michael's experience/opinion or teacher's experience/opinion, they kill themselves. I have no idea if Michael still holds this opinion, and, personally, I have no experience myself. In fact, I love Paxil. But it would be very, very interesting if these meds could effect the brain chemistry in such a way to actually cause one to form and then act on a specific set of ideas. That opens up a huge relam of possibilities in terms of altering brain chemistry. Elevating or depressing mood and excitability are one thing, actually creating certain ideas and desires is a whole other thing. Brave new world! Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 Michael Broffman saying that you had to be careful treating people with depression. When they are very, very depressed, they can't motivate themselves to actually kill themselves. However, when they start to feel better and have more energy, that's when, in Michael's experience/opinion or teacher's experience/opinion, they kill themselves. >>>This is what the thinking is about the anti-depressants.I am not sure why they think Prozac is different except that the 1/2 life is much longer so it takes a longer time to get a steady state. Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 Wow! See the New York Times article on " Pharmaceutical Man " in last week's (tuesday4/6) Science Times. It discusses the shocking increases in drug intake among Americans in the last five years, last year antidepressant use climbed 15%. Many of these increases in prescription drugs were among children. By the way, the large increases in use of prescription drugs effects our practices as well, and heats up such issues as herb-drug interactions. I think a lot of our recent difficulties has to do with people augmenting drug regimens with supplements and herbs in large quantities. How does one add herbal prescriptions to patient regimens of four or five prescription drugs, plus supplements and herbs? Chinese herbal medicine was developed for populations who weren't dosing on recreational substances, prescription drugs and supplements. It is a very big challenge. On Apr 12, 2004, at 3:19 PM, wrote: > guardian 12/10/03 reports: > > UK bans all but prozac for children as suppressed research shows high > suicidal impulses (9%) on other SSRIs. > > > Chinese Herbs > > > FAX: > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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