Guest guest Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 I don't see qi as it was used in the medical classics a having any resemblance to any western concept of spirituality. The neo-confucian idea of qi being the finest influences that permeate the universe did not seem to have any influence on medicine. I think that because qi is such a flexible term with so many different contexts, there has been a tendency even amongst the chinese themselves, to play mix and match with these ideas. Just cause certain qi gong practitioners, alchemists and meditators used the same terms as those used in medicine and even believed these terms to be cross disciplinary does not make it so. Ironically, the application of neoconfucian ideas, such as the one above, to healing by some fringe groups in ancient china is very similar to the tendency of uneducated natural health enthusiasts today to equate quantum physics with healing. But just as no trained scientist takes this metaphysical position seriously today, it does not seem to have been a standard position amongst literate chinese docs in their own culture in any era. And even in the context of taoist metaphysics amongst many chinese qi gong practitioners, there is nothing spiritual going on. We see the term shen and immediately read into it. But taoist ideas about the three treasures of jing, qi and shen could just as easily refer to psychological and developmental processes. In fact, the evidence suggests, as Bob Flaws has put it in chinese medical psychiatry, that there has never been anything spiritual at all connoted about the word shen in CM literature, past or present. So the concept of balancing body, mind and spirit that people throw about so cavalierly as the core of our medicine, really has no foundation in CM. The closest the chinese texts come is when referring to jing-shen or the tripartite divisions of heaven, human and earth. but in each case, I believe what is meant is consciousness in the mundane sense of human mental processes. When taoists talk about conserving jing to produce more qi and then transforming that qi to shen ming or spirit brilliance, I believe they are talking about a psychophysiological process that allows the expression of hitherto unexpressed aspects of our genetic code (jing). This is accomplished by a mental discipline that redirects the functional capacity of the body (qi) to increased mental development (shen). This mental discipline may lead to changes in hormones and neurotransmitter levels that create new neural connections that alter body function in many ways (greater, health, speed, strength, cognition), but all within the realm of physiology. I think the chinese themselves steered clear of spirit and we should do likewise. As Brian Carter points out on his website, www.christianacupuncture.com, 75% of americans are self-described christians. And unlike other christian countries, america has a lot of true believers who actually attend church regularly. In other words, the religious sentiment is deep, not superficial. Whether you agree with my position here or not is not really the only or even main issue. It is also about what strategy is best to mainstream CM. It has been suggested several times recently that we are doomed if we do not stick to our " faith " . I say we are doomed if we do. Brian and I share very different spiritual views, but we do agree that medicine and mysticism should not be part of the same conversation Chinese Herbs FAX: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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