Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 I would be very curious to know what the Chengdu physicians think of S. Persicae as an ingredient in some of the classical formulas for various types of cancer - see below. From my experiences, I'd agree that the ordinary TCM formulas for matching the manifested patterns are helpful/necessary, but not sufficient. However, a number of physicians and cancer researchers I've talked with, and who have experience in this area, are also of the opinion that almost all chemotherapy and radiation Tx are worthless, except perhaps for some of the chemotherapeutic agents for childhood leukemia. (They have only admitted these opinions to me privately, and emphasize that they would deny these statements publicly, for fear of persecution.) Specifically regarding S. Persicae, here is a quote from an article I recently wrote: ===================== Since this article was written, the author has changed his opinion of the use of laetrile or apricot kernels, from which laetrile is extracted. Laetrile has been ignored by many practitioners who have assumed that it is merely an over-hyped cancer remedy. FDA reports indicated that it was relatively ineffective; however, recent historical research now suggests that the FDA research that these reports were based on were fraudulent and did not follow the protocol used by many practitioners who claimed to get good results. [14] The author's own clinical experience is consistent with such claims of FDA fraud. A number of classical Chinese herbal formulas for Blood-Stasis-type tumors contain Semen Persicae (peach seed kernels, similar in laetrile, or nitriloside-amygdalin, content to apricot kernels), suggesting that ancient Chinese doctors were aware of the anti-cancer uses of this herb. Today, however, commercially available Semen Persicae does not have a characteristic bitter-almond taste and is relatively low in the cyanide-containing nitriloside-amygdalin component which is the essential active ingredient. Instead, it is recommended that apricot kernels (must have a distinctive bitter-almond taste) be included in the diet, eaten raw. (The active nitrilosides are deactivated with heat.) ======== I've also used apricot kernels, eaten raw, in combination with Eupolyphaga (Chinese cockroach - cooked in formulas) in many tumor/cancer situations, along with whatever other herbs the patterns indicate. The mechanism of action of nitrilosides is such that they only destroy cancer cells, which are otherwise difficult to distinguish from ordinary cells, as the Chinese doctor below indicates. Also, how many Chinese doctors recognize the relationship between heavy metal toxicity and cancer, and have specific herbal protocols for dealing with it? >Message: 9 > Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:21:39 -0700 > < >Oncology in Chengdu > >A fascinating report from a former student of mine now studying in >chengdu. for those who want to get clinical for a change. > > > I have annotated a few days in clinic in the onclogy department. I >thought I might send the notes off to you, in case you are interested >in how it is being treated here. What you will discover is two totally >different approaches to oncology, yet there is one similarity. Both >practitioners draw on the same formula and use it over and over and >over again. Of course there are variations on that formula based on >presenting symptoms, but that basic formula remains the same. The >difference in formulas is due to the fact that the two doctors have >different theories that they are working with. Read on, and you will >understand. Hopefully, you will be intrigued, too. > >4/19/04 >Today in oncology, the doctor we observed argues that >the old ways of treating cancer are basically >ineffective, according to his clinical experience. >The ¡®old way¡¯ is to see cancer as either of the >following patterns: deficiency, blood stasis, toxin, >or phlem stasis. He argues that while these are >complications that result in cancer, they are not the >root of cancer pathology. And when the disease is >treated as such, the results are ineffective. > >Modern research, according to him, is showing that >cancer cells are almost identical to normal cells. >The difference is that a normal cell will go through a >full life-cycle: new cell, adult cell, old cell, dead >cell. The cancer cell, on the other hand is just a >new cell that never achieves a full life-span. And in >stem-cell research, if you take the normal cell of a >frog and a cancer cell of a frog, both will develop >into a full frog. In other words, there is very >little difference between the two cells, just the >possibility of development. Using this theory, this >doctor is clinically demonstrating that it is possible >to transform the immature cancer cell into a mature >cell, through supplementing both the spleen and >kidneys. It is not unlike treating a child who cannot >develop physically. You support the spleen and >kidney. > >And he¡¯s not saying that chemo, radiology, or surgery >are useless. On the contrary, he thinks that they are >necessary. His argument is that the two, herbal >medicine and moderns medical approaches to cancer can >and should be used together. When used together, the >possibility of success increases by 1/3, not to >mention that the side-effects of cancer treatment are >overcome, according to him, by 1/3: patients don¡¯t >experience alopecia nor does their white blood cell >count. > ---Roger Wicke, PhD, TCM Clinical Herbalist contact: www.rmhiherbal.org/contact/ Rocky Mountain Herbal Institute, Hot Springs, Montana USA Clinical herbology training programs - www.rmhiherbal.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 , rw2@r... wrote: > > > I would be very curious to know what the Chengdu physicians think of S. Persicae as an ingredient in some of the classical formulas for various types of cancer - see below. > Unfortunately , I am not able to ask questions of the sender right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2004 Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 chemotherapy and radiation Tx are worthless, except perhaps for some of the chemotherapeutic agents for childhood leukemia. >>>Many lymphomas can be cured with chemo. Many cancers can be cured with radiation. This statements is way too sweeping Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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