Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 Evergreen and KPC are not shipping any formulas with ban xia. Evergreen is shipping formulas with replacements for ban xia. Ex: Wen Dan Tang= dan nan xing Liu jun zi tang= cang zhu Ban xia hou po tang= xuan fu hua I will post more of these replacements when I get the info. I think they should make for interesting discussion. Rich Blitstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 , " richblit " <richblit@r...> wrote: > Evergreen and KPC are not shipping any formulas with ban xia. > Evergreen is shipping formulas with replacements for ban xia. who is your KPC supplier? there are several different outlets and I believe they have made different choices about how to adhere to the ban. Golden flower is selling ban xia in KPC granules as these test ephedrine-free. However stock is low as the curent shipment has been held at customs. Whether the FDA releases these products will probably be quite telling. Some companies are also still selling ma huang containing patents, though I don't really understand what loophole allows this since if they don't contain ephedrines, they don't work. A sales rep told me that since her company only sells to licensed px, it is legal. I respectfully disagree. If it contains ephedrines and is a dietary supplement, it must be illegal under the current rule. I have yet to see a rational explanation of how this could be otherwise. While some lawyers have apparently advised differently, I have to still advise against buying or selling ma huang containing patents and only buy ban xia patents and granules that come with a COA. The best bet is to check with your insurer to see if you are covered and also your state board to see how they intepret the affect of this rule on your practice. Because if you are not insured and/or your state board removes ma huang from your pharmacopeia, it really doesn't matter what the feds had in mind. Insurers don't take on high profile risks and a boards main mission is to protect the public, not the licensees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 I use 4 season herbs as my KPC supplier. I believe they are the main distributor in the US. , " " wrote: > , " richblit " <richblit@r...> wrote: > > Evergreen and KPC are not shipping any formulas with ban xia. > > Evergreen is shipping formulas with replacements for ban xia. > > > who is your KPC supplier? there are several different outlets and I believe > they have made different choices about how to adhere to the ban. Golden > flower is selling ban xia in KPC granules as these test ephedrine- free. > However stock is low as the curent shipment has been held at customs. > Whether the FDA releases these products will probably be quite telling. Some > companies are also still selling ma huang containing patents, though I don't > really understand what loophole allows this since if they don't contain > ephedrines, they don't work. A sales rep told me that since her company only > sells to licensed px, it is legal. I respectfully disagree. If it contains > ephedrines and is a dietary supplement, it must be illegal under the current > rule. I have yet to see a rational explanation of how this could be otherwise. > > While some lawyers have apparently advised differently, I have to still advise > against buying or selling ma huang containing patents and only buy ban xia > patents and granules that come with a COA. The best bet is to check with your > insurer to see if you are covered and also your state board to see how they > intepret the affect of this rule on your practice. Because if you are not > insured and/or your state board removes ma huang from your pharmacopeia, it > really doesn't matter what the feds had in mind. Insurers don't take on high > profile risks and a boards main mission is to protect the public, not the > licensees. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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