Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 There are alternatives to insurance compensation. Hospitals might find it cost-effective to underwrite certain services, and research grants could keep things rolling as well. If one of the goals of the DAOM is to facilitate integration (not assimilation) into the conventional American medical world, it makes sense to conduct the training within that environment. , " " wrote: > Depends on who is paying for the treatments... if insurance companies find it cost > effective it could happen. > doug > > , " adamhenrymargolis " > <adamhenrymargolis> wrote: > > I'm wondering if it is indeed inconceivable to establish high volume > > specialty CM internships here in the States. I work in the radiation > > oncology department of a hospital in Milwaukee - not by any means a > > city known for widespread interest in . > > Nevertheless, over 65% of new patients express interest in > > incorporating acupuncture and other forms of CAM into their > > treatment. (And many of those who are not interested at first become > > more open to the idea once they start experiencing side effects.) So > > at least within oncology, the patients are there. We would need to > > find and cultivate cooporative institutions and physicians, and CM > > practitioners who are experienced in various specialties. It may not > > be realistic for next year, but what about in 5 years? > > > > Adam Margolis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Chris wrote: <<< " Upgrading " TCM training to that of Dr.s is not what we want to do.>>> - snip - <<<We do not need to be on par with Dr.s. What possible gain is there in making it harder to run a clinic where making money has to be the prime directive or go bankrupt?????>>> Andrea writes: Hi Chris! I can certainly appreciate your sentiments. My comments are specific to what type of training should be included in a DAOM program, rather than arguing whether we need a Doctorate. Certainly at this time, the few Doctorate training programs available are optional. I believe PCOM's selling point is that their DAOM program is *not required* to enter the field, but for those interested in becoming *leaders* in the field. May this change at some point? Possibly. If the licensing boards at some point start requiring enough training for entering students to warrant the awarding of a Doctoral degree, then that's probably where the training programs will go. I doubt that would be for some time, though. My point is that if we wish for a DAOM program to be accepted as equal training to that of a Western Doctorate (which it should be), the training must be equally comprehensive. I'm not saying that everyone in the profession needs to be a Doctor, but that the doctorate degree (for those who wish to obtain one) should really mean something. Otherwise, what's the point? Kindest Regards, Andrea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2004 Report Share Posted May 6, 2004 Hi Andrea, I appreciate your optimism in regard to the benefits of a DOM. It would seem to be a good thing as today, as you point out, the doctoral program is optional. A few sentences later you pose the question, " will it stay optional? " That is where the problems arise. Governing bodies will tend to listen to the more vocal and presumably more insightful DOMs when looking for guidance in creating new legislation. I am going to bet that this new class of Acupuncture physicians, the DOMs, will be voting to require the DOM as a starting point. It won't take very long until the inevitable happens. I think it a far better use of time to propose legislation to up level the required schooling of MDs and Chiros, to practice acupuncture. Allowing uneducated medical types to practice after 200hrs and requiring 6 years for a Reiki master or massage therapist, is crazy. IMHO, Chris In a message dated 5/6/2004 11:35:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, aianmeng writes: Hi Chris! I can certainly appreciate your sentiments. My comments are specific to what type of training should be included in a DAOM program, rather than arguing whether we need a Doctorate. Certainly at this time, the few Doctorate training programs available are optional. I believe PCOM's selling point is that their DAOM program is *not required* to enter the field, but for those interested in becoming *leaders* in the field. May this change at some point? Possibly. If the licensing boards at some point start requiring enough training for entering students to warrant the awarding of a Doctoral degree, then that's probably where the training programs will go. I doubt that would be for some time, though. My point is that if we wish for a DAOM program to be accepted as equal training to that of a Western Doctorate (which it should be), the training must be equally comprehensive. I'm not saying that everyone in the profession needs to be a Doctor, but that the doctorate degree (for those who wish to obtain one) should really mean something. Otherwise, what's the point? Kindest Regards, Andrea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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