Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 I think I need to clarify a point. If one can show a reliably reproducible connection between two or more phenomena or variables, I consider that a scientific verification. This would apply to ESP, healing at a distance, prayer, magic, etc. While the mechanism of action is also of interest and in the domain of science, it is mainly the reliability and reproducibility that concern me in this instance. Magical thinking is essentially defined as drawing connections between phenomena based upon faulty deduction and induction. It has nothing to do with the phenomena themselves. If you have ever read Murphy's Future of the body, there is ample evidence that unexplainable phenomena exist. TCM makes connections not known in western thought. They are not magical because they have a certain reliability and reproducibility that has been shown in both history and science. We might not know how these connections are all explained, but that is one part of science. For example, it was faulty to believe that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west when in actuality the earth rotates and revolves around the sun. The literal idea of the flat earth and the moving sun impeded rational thinking for centuries. The observer will naturally draw the connection between two events even if none exists. Only math and technology showed that the casual connections made by untrained minds are often faulty. This assumption that one thing is happening when it is really another is called magical because in the absence of explanation, invisible forces were often resorted to in explanation. But it applies to any connection between two events that can be shown to be flawed. Another example is Sheldrake's experiment where one seems to sense being stared at. But that experiment has been shown to be fatally flawed and easily explainable by nonmagical means. When religion attempts to explain the physical world, it fails the test of evidence. When religion attempts to explain the spiritual realm, many sources seem to concur. This would lend some validity to religion as a source of information about aspects of consciousness and reality that may transcend the physical. But it would be a mistake to extend the domain of religion into the flesh. Ken Wilber writes clearly on the domains of science, art and religion and the eyes of the flesh, mind and spirit. This has been the great failure of the new age, the idea that spiritual sources provide the best explanation for physical reality as well as transcendent consciousness. The idea that those in the past may know more about consciousness than we do makes sense as they were unburdened by technology. But we know more about the physical world. It never ceases to amaze me that TCM herbology is consistently proven valid when subjected to science. Anything method that works can be shown to work. If it works, it is rational, if not, it's irrational. That's all. Nothing more, nothing less. Chinese Herbs FAX: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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