bai hu tang/reproducible results

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Brian, please, enough bickering.

 

I merely wanted to point out that the process of decocting a formula

can produce a result different than the administration of the individual

ingredients, and that in the case fo bai hu tang, that particular

resulting decoction will in-vivo act like an antibiotic, whereas

in-vitro, it will not. I also asked if anyone can give me another

example of a decocted formula producing a response different than

properties of its individual ingredients?

 

Furthermore PLEASE, don't misrepresent my perspective as viewing what is

currently unexplainable as " magic " . I really don't appreciate such an

inaccurate projection. Nor do I appreciate the insinuation that I

espouse or promote faith healing. Both assumptions are inconsistent with

normative orthodox or chasidic Judaism. Rather, I am illustrating in

tcm and in traditional Jewish medicine, (as well as other folk medicine

traditions as well, for that matter) that there are phenomena related to

healing that science, objectively, may not be able to explain, and yet,

whose results ARE reproducible.

 

I think we have each stated our positions well. Unless you have something

new to add to our discussion, let's leave it at that.

 

Sincerely,

 

Yehuda

 

On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 05:58:07 -0000 " bcataiji " <bcaom writes:

> , yehuda l frischman

> <@j...> wrote:

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> > That is exactly the research that was done by Dr. Zhang, et al. in

> Nan

> > Jing, circa 1980. Individual ingredients administered were

> ineffectual,

> > in one group of patients with pneumonia, whereas when decocted it

> was

> > effective.

>

> Even if this one study is completely accurate and is able to be

> extrapolated to the general case, it does not make your case for

> you.

> High school chemistry taught us that combining 2 compounds can

> result

> in a chemical reaction that would yield a different set of

> compounds.

> No magic, no faith, nothing but science is necessary here.

>

> What point are you trying to make with this?

>

> Brian C. Allen

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