Guest guest Posted June 6, 2004 Report Share Posted June 6, 2004 , Musiclear@a... wrote: > Original article: > http://aolsvc.health.webmd.aol.com/content/Article/87/99574.htm > what a small poorly designed study this was. it was irresponsible to publish the results as if they meant anything at all. many of the patients had normal blood pressure. no one ever claimed acupuncture affected those with normal blood pressure. Having said that, I do not find OM to be that reliable in sustained lowering of blood pressure, either. I have queried hundreds on this topic and most seem to agree. How many of you have gotten patients off meds with OM and can be sure that this was not mostly or completely due to other changes like exercise and diet. In my earlier days in the field, I was often shocked at how many older chinese docs took hi BP meds. Now I know why. Jiang ya pian seems to work, but that is probably more like a drug mixture than an herbal rx. Consider the patients who are older and who refuse to make all the lifestyle changes, how do they fare with herbs and acupuncture over the long run (not just right after tx). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 This recent HTN study will have impact in this area. It was conducted at Mass General Hospital with an NIH grant by experienced acupuncturists using TCM acupuncture. Despite modest clinical success, the big news is that this study continues to raise the issue of active sham vs. real acupuncture, since there was no significant difference in results between the groups. Description: http://www.nesa.edu/research/currentresearch/sharp.html Design Paper: http://www.nesa.edu/research/currentresearch/SHARP%20Design.pdf Preliminary abstract: http://www.nesa.edu/research/currentresearch/sharpabstract.html > , Musiclear@a... wrote: >> Original article: >> http://aolsvc.health.webmd.aol.com/content/Article/87/99574.htm >> > > what a small poorly designed study this was. it was irresponsible to > publish the results as > if they meant anything at all. many of the patients had normal blood > pressure. no one > ever claimed acupuncture affected those with normal blood pressure. > > Having said that, I do not find OM to be that reliable in sustained > lowering of blood > pressure, either. I have queried hundreds on this topic and most seem to > agree. How > many of you have gotten patients off meds with OM and can be sure that > this was not > mostly or completely due to other changes like exercise and diet. In my > earlier days in the > field, I was often shocked at how many older chinese docs took hi BP meds. > Now I know > why. Jiang ya pian seems to work, but that is probably more like a drug > mixture than an > herbal rx. Consider the patients who are older and who refuse to make all > the lifestyle > changes, how do they fare with herbs and acupuncture over the long run > (not just right > after tx). > > > > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including > board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a > free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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