Guest guest Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 I am having a VERY hard time getting this book : Complete External Therapies of Chinese Drugs. Everyone is sold out. Could someone that has it (or knows about baths) please give a quick synopsis on herbal baths. I.e. Dosage, time of soak, and maybe a sample case/ rx etc. Thank you, - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 On 09/06/2004, at 11:09 PM, wrote: > I am having a VERY hard time getting this book : Complete External > Therapies of Chinese Drugs. Everyone is sold out. Could someone that > has it (or knows about baths) please give a quick synopsis on herbal > baths. I.e. Dosage, time of soak, and maybe a sample case/ rx etc. > Thank you, > > - Hi Jason, I have this text; however the structure makes it a bit difficult to fulfill your request as the It has a very brief intro for 32 different kinds of external therapy and then treatments for over 100 diseases divided into internal med, paeds, surgery, derm etc. If you can give me the disease you are interested in I could give you a summary of treatment suggestion for it. At any rate here is a summary of a few methods you may be interested in (baths are not an exact category). zuo yao fa (sitting on drug) - obtain decoction - pour into basin and take hip (sitz) bath to let decoction into anus and vagina directly -OR grind drugs into powder, heat power by stir-frying in pot, wrap heated powder in cloth and sit on wrap with or anus or perineum - suitable for haemorrhoids, proctoptosis, hyperoptosis (eg wubeizi hip bath) etc. Xun xi fa (steaming and drip-washing with drug decoction) - boil drugs in decoction - steam and drip-wash affected part with it and then stepp affected part with the hot decoction - combines drug action with heat to effect expelling pathogenic factors from superficial muscles, promote qi and blood, improve local nourishment and general body function to relieve swelling, pain and itch. Xun Zheng Fa (steaming muscles and skin with drug vapour) - use vapor from boiled drugs to steam skin and muscles - place affected part over pot and cover pot with sheet to avoid vapour escape - effects include expelling wind, alleviating itch, activating collaterals, relieving pain and relseasing exterior syndrome and promoting eruption - used for tinea, numbness/pain due to ext wind-damp, delayed eruption of measles The text does not specially mention time of treatment here......however from memory of my studies; decoctions are used from as hot as possible until body temp for COLD conditions and room temp for HOT conditions for about 20 minutes. If you are very keen on getting this text, it may be available here (australia) through www.acuneeds.com or www.chinabooks.com.au Best of luck, Dr. Steven J Slater Practitioner and Acupuncturist Mobile: 0418 343 545 chinese_medicine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Zev, I haven't seen the movies yet but i believe i've seen the herb baths, well at least the modern ones. Whilst i was studying in Beijing, i saw a few at Zhong Ri hospital. They were using them on patients with arthritis. The patient would lie in the machine (shaped like a bath) and the machine would vibrate giving a tuina style massage. It would then spray the pre loaded herbal decoction over the patient and they would bathe in it. I tried out the massage part, it was alright. I was thinking of buying one but chose against it because of getting spare parts when it breaks down and who would fix it when it did break. According to the hospital's nurse that worked there, they can break down easy. Attilio www.chinesemedicinetimes.com , " " <zrosenbe wrote: > > An amazing pharmacy in " Golden Flower " , lots of herb cutters, > grinders, an imperial physician. Also a great, if tragic, film. > > But I understand why Sun Si-miao wanted nothing to do with the > imperial government of his era, the Tang dynasty! > > I'd love to try one of those herbal steams or baths that were shown > in the movie. . . > > > On Dec 31, 2006, at 5:58 PM, Sarah Rivkin wrote: > > > In the latest Zheng Yimou extravaganza, The Curse of the Golden > > Flower, Chinese herbal medicine plays a prominent role. It is not > > necessarily favorably shown, so I'm not sure I'd recommend it to a > > patient. However, we should be aware that this depiction of our > > profession--even at a historical distance--is out there in the popular > > culture. > > > > Maybe, though, it's something to recommend to a student of Chinese > > medicine, as it does also give insights to imperial culture and > > history. > > > > On another topic, thanks to you all for another year of thoughtful > > discussion! > > > > Happy New Year, > > > > Sarah > > > > Sarah E. Rivkin, MS, LAc, Dipl. OM > > www.slopeacupuncture.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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