Guest guest Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 Dear Todd I'm afraid you may have either misunderstood me or just forgotton your good old TCM 101. This was a very common mistake made by myself and classmates in school and used to frustrate my poor Chinese teachers no end! When my teachers would ask " what are the causes of this disease? " say epigastric pain (disease dx). We would all pipe up and say " Liver invading the Stomach! " (actually diff dx not causes) to which he would huff and roll his eyes. The causes (as listed by G. Macciocia in the Foundations of Chapter 15) would be either internal (seven affects), external (climactic factors—phlegm is not a climactic factor, dampness is but only in it's externally contracted evil form) or " other " being weak constitution, over-exertion, excessive sexual activity, bad diet, trauma, parasites and poisons, wrong treatment. Also possible are prenatal causes induced either by the mother's internal, external and other exposures or problems with the person's jing. By examining somebody's lifestyle and the possible causes of disease that lurk there, we can obtain clues to diff dx (the person is 65 years old, digs ditches for a living and has chronic lower back pain---hmmm Kid xu?). See what I'm saying? I know it sounds picky, but it is a very important aspect of TCM that a lot of people just brush by in their understanding. So, as I have said, the seven affects are a major " cause " of disease, especially in the US. It is important that we encourage our patients to address and remove these causes in order to help our treatments work better and alleviate their suffering. Instead of mearly saying, " you need to quit your job because it makes you worried and angry " can we not suggest methods for mediating worry and anger which are proven and helpful. I'm still trying to work out exactly how far I should go in that department (see posts by Bob Flaws on this thread) with patients in a TCM practice, but I think that at least " relaxation techniques " have been ok'd by the more experienced practitioners in this group with respect to meditation. Although I feel that Tonglen and Inner Smile are the best almost " surgical " forms as they are precisely directed at resolving specific internal causes, I am willing to listen to and accept agreed upon, more general, less threatening practices for the good of our profession as a whole and save the " surgery " for outside workshops aimed at the interested. Thanks for listening and stimulating a most interesting, important thread!! Shanna , " " wrote: > , " shannahickle " <shannahickle> > wrote: > > > > > > Identifying causes or etiologies of disease (and then alerting the > > patient to removing the causes) is not included within differential > > diagnostic process to the best of my knowledge. > > > they absolutely are. if a person with bronchitis has phlegm, thenthe advice is different > than if they are lung qi xu. diff dx is relevant to all advice we give the patient. generic > advice is not medicine. it is health counseling, a vital skill, but one that does not require > medical training. In fact, the best health counselors I know are not medical px. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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