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http://health.shennong

..doc

 

this document formats for me in wordpad on my PC, but does not open

on my mac because I can't seem to get the chinese language features

to work on OSX. I have no idea if it opens in word on a properly

configured computer. let me know. and if you can make a PDF, put it

up on the site for other mac users who find using chinese on a mac to

be like pulling teeth.

 

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Hi Todd

 

This file doesn't format for me correctly on a PC. It doesn't show

the chinese characters though I have configured my PC correctly for

chinese languages. Otherwise I could have made a PDF on my PC.

 

So I think the file no longer has its correct character coding.

 

Best wishes

 

Alwin

 

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http://health.shennong

> .doc

>

> this document formats for me in wordpad on my PC, but does not open

> on my mac because I can't seem to get the chinese language features

> to work on OSX. I have no idea if it opens in word on a properly

> configured computer. let me know. and if you can make a PDF, put

it

> up on the site for other mac users who find using chinese on a mac

to

> be like pulling teeth.

>

 

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This is not a Mac problem..........it is a MS Office issue. Office V.X

has no unicode or chinese support, especially excel and word.....I have

managed to get entourage to show chinese characters at times.

 

Limited viewing is possible if you use Japanese encoding to view

characters in Word X, but pinyin with tones is impossible as far as I

know.

 

However, the rumour is that Office 2004 for Mac now has chinese AND

unicode support.

 

Typing chinese characters in OSX is simple enough, there are many

different options for input style. You must have the language packs

installed and then enable them in the International preferences. When

you want to type in chinese, click on the flag on the finder window and

change to chinese.

 

I hope this helps a bit.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Steve

 

 

 

On 27/06/2004, at 3:30 PM, wrote:

 

> http://health.shennong

> .doc

>

> this document formats for me in wordpad on my PC, but does not open

> on my mac because I can't seem to get the chinese language features

> to work on OSX. I have no idea if it opens in word on a properly

> configured computer. let me know. and if you can make a PDF, put it

> up on the site for other mac users who find using chinese on a mac to

> be like pulling teeth.

>

 

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> including board approved continuing education classes, an annual

> conference and a free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine.

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Here is a useful resource for OSX chinese...

 

http://www.yale.edu/chinesemac/pages/os_x.html#Panther

 

and this for mac in general....

 

http://www.yale.edu/chinesemac/pages/utilities.html

 

 

Best Wishes,

 

Steve

>> .... for other mac users who find using chinese on a mac to

>> be like pulling teeth.

>>

>

>>

>>

>

Dr. Steven J Slater

Practitioner and Acupuncturist

Mobile: 0418 343 545

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if you send it to me as a word file I can make a pdf (but I only have office

2000, so save as office 2000, unless the formats are compatable)

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Sunday, June 27, 2004 1:30 AM

shen nong with pinyin

 

 

> http://health.shennong

> .doc

>

> this document formats for me in wordpad on my PC, but does not open

> on my mac because I can't seem to get the chinese language features

> to work on OSX. I have no idea if it opens in word on a properly

> configured computer. let me know. and if you can make a PDF, put it

> up on the site for other mac users who find using chinese on a mac to

> be like pulling teeth.

>

 

>

>

>

>

> Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including

board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a free

discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine.

>

>

>

>

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, Steven Slater

<dragonslive@i...> wrote:

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>

> This is not a Mac problem..........it is a MS Office issue. Office V.X

> has no unicode or chinese support, especially excel and word.....I have

> managed to get entourage to show chinese characters at times.

>

> Limited viewing is possible if you use Japanese encoding to view

> characters in Word X, but pinyin with tones is impossible as far as I

> know.

 

MS does allow for tones, I use them all the time. THis is just a

compatability issue ( I think.) (I think this is what you were talking

about.)

 

I d/l the file and I finally see what you guys are talking about, the

formatting is nice for learning and wenlin DOESNOT do this, so I was

wrong...

 

 

 

 

>

> However, the rumour is that Office 2004 for Mac now has chinese AND

> unicode support.

>

> Typing chinese characters in OSX is simple enough, there are many

> different options for input style. You must have the language packs

> installed and then enable them in the International preferences. When

> you want to type in chinese, click on the flag on the finder window and

> change to chinese.

 

Similiar to MS> Chinese input with MSWORD is extremely easy and IMO

better then twinbridge and NJSTAR. But if you find something cool

otherwise let me know.

 

-Jason

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There is for using chinese on the mac. it's not real active but you

might find

some answers and similar frustrations posted. And some interesting people show

up there

also.

doug

 

 

> > Typing chinese characters in OSX is simple enough, there are many

> > different options for input style. You must have the language packs

> > installed and then enable them in the International preferences. When

> > you want to type in chinese, click on the flag on the finder window and

> > change to chinese.

>

> Similiar to MS> Chinese input with MSWORD is extremely easy and IMO

> better then twinbridge and NJSTAR. But if you find something cool

> otherwise let me know.

>

> -Jason

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Steve wrote:

 

<<<<This is not a Mac problem..........it is a MS Office issue. Office V.X

has no unicode or chinese support, especially excel and word.....I have

managed to get entourage to show chinese characters at times.>>>>

 

 

Hi Steve, and all.

 

Perhaps you missed my post from a few of days ago? I'm guessing it

slipped by unnoticed.

 

Microsoft Office does support Pinyin. I use it all the time. The easiest

way to write Pinyin documents in Word or Excel is to use a conversion

macro that allows you to easily turn Pinyin with numbers to indicate

tones, into Pinyin with tone marks. You just write your document using

the numbers to indicate the tones, then run your Macro. Very simple.

 

The macros, which take only minutes to set up, and just seconds to use,

can be found at: http://www.csulb.edu/~txie/PINYIN/pinyin.htm

 

I Hope this helps!

 

Kindest Regards,

 

Andrea

 

 

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Thanks Andrea,

 

Your post didn't go by unnoticed.........however, our problem is

specific to MS Office on the Mac. MS have been " lazy " , to say the

least, by not including Unicode and Chinese support in the Mac version.

 

I actually downloaded and tried to Macro's you suggested; but the Mac

version will only display the 2nd and 4th tones of pinyin (probably due

to these symbols being in european languages).

 

I know MS Office for windows does not have these problems and MS Office

2004 for the Mac is said to address these issues also.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Steve

 

 

On 28/06/2004, at 6:21 AM, Ai An Meng wrote:

 

> Steve wrote:

>

> <<<<This is not a Mac problem..........it is a MS Office issue. Office

> V.X

> has no unicode or chinese support, especially excel and word.....I have

> managed to get entourage to show chinese characters at times.>>>>

>

>

> Hi Steve, and all.

>

> Perhaps you missed my post from a few of days ago? I'm guessing it

> slipped by unnoticed.

>

> Microsoft Office does support Pinyin. I use it all the time. The

> easiest

> way to write Pinyin documents in Word or Excel is to use a conversion

> macro that allows you to easily turn Pinyin with numbers to indicate

> tones, into Pinyin with tone marks. You just write your document using

> the numbers to indicate the tones, then run your Macro. Very simple.

>

> The macros, which take only minutes to set up, and just seconds to use,

> can be found at: http://www.csulb.edu/~txie/PINYIN/pinyin.htm

>

> I Hope this helps!

>

> Kindest Regards,

>

> Andrea

 

Dr. Steven J Slater

Practitioner and Acupuncturist

Mobile: 0418 343 545

chinese_medicine

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Yes,

Wenlin and Chinese documents can be transferred seamlessly to MS

Word/Office 2004. For those of us with Macs, the upgrade is probably

worth it. I know it is for me.

 

 

On Jun 27, 2004, at 6:05 PM, Steven Slater wrote:

 

> Thanks Andrea,

>

> Your post didn't go by unnoticed.........however, our problem is

> specific to MS Office on the Mac. MS have been " lazy " , to say the

> least, by not including Unicode and Chinese support in the Mac version.

>

> I actually downloaded and tried to Macro's you suggested; but the Mac

> version will only display the 2nd and 4th tones of pinyin (probably due

> to these symbols being in european languages).

>

> I know MS Office for windows does not have these problems and MS Office

> 2004 for the Mac is said to address these issues also.

>

> Best Wishes,

>

> Steve

>

>

> On 28/06/2004, at 6:21 AM, Ai An Meng wrote:

>

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Hi Steve,

 

Perhaps this will help. =-) I did a little searching to see what I could turn

up for Macintosh pinyin utilities, particularly for MS Word, and I found macros

to use in Word on the Mac! The same site also has Pinyin fonts and other

utilities available in both Windows & Mac versions, all for free. Worth taking a

look at. You can find everything at the following url:

http://www.foolsworkshop.com/easytone/ Installing the pinyin fonts would

probably be helpful, too.

 

You can download the macros for Word on the Mac directly from this link:

http://www.foolsworkshop.com/easytone/Tones.dot.sit.hqx The macros are in

stuffit format.

 

Hopefully, this will sort out the problems you're having in Word. I agree that

upgrading to Office 2004 is probably the way to go, in the long run. I made the

upgrade earlier this year (PC version), and I'm very happy that I did, as there

were some key improvements in a few programs I use regularly. I hear the

improvements are even greater in the Mac version.

 

Cheers!

 

Andrea

 

 

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