Guest guest Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 I believe what I heard when I graduated from PCOM... and that is, it would take 3 to 5 years to build a private practice. After building up my private practice out of the home, over the past 3 years, I recently moved into a large spacious center of my own (next to the famous Big Kitchen, a nice cozy space in the middle, of fabulous neighborhood!). I grew out of 1 treatment room and needed 2. Now I have 2 large treatment rooms and 2 bathrooms and a very beautiful, large waiting room. I now see 2 patients, who receive front and back treatments, cupping, Moxa, massage etc., as indicated. I generally do not prescribe any herbs at the first treatment session. As for herbs, if I am seeing a patient 1-2 times a week then I include the herbs, in their session. However if a patient is on a maintenance program and comes in 1x a month, then I charge for the herbs at retail price. Teresa Teresa Hall, L.Ac, M.S, Q.M.E. 619-517-1188 - " " Sunday, August 22, 2004 8:51 PM RE: Re: patient load > Sorry about the previous post (below), my rough draft somehow got attached > to the top of the email, please disregard and check out the bottom portion. > > > > -JB > > > > _____ > > [] > Sunday, August 22, 2004 9:14 PM > > RE: Re: patient load > > > > Guy, > > > > This is of course one opinion. I think Todd's point about what MD's cannot > legally do and what naturopathics are recommended to do are the ethical > standard for healthcare. You may disagree, but the point is that you charge > for the service and not the supplement because it is real easy to recommend > things that the patient does not need. But hey it is all a matter of > perspective, like what is wrong with making a profit by exploiting migrant > workers, etc etc. And BTW - I think that with healthcare picking up most of > the cost for P-Drugs, if you prescribed herbs (i.e. about $80 a month) you > are most likely going to be more expensive then what the patient pays for > all their drugs. Include in 1 supplement app $30. you have $110 / month. > That is not cheap. But I stick by the ethical decision to not make profit > from herb sales. > > > > - > > > > _____ > > DrGRPorter [DrGRPorter] > Sunday, August 22, 2004 6:22 PM > > Re: Re: patient load > > > > > > > >prescribing. I sometimes feel compelled to reassure my > > >patients that I don't make much on the products I sell but I > > >would feel much better about just writing the prescript like > > >MD's do. > > > > From what I have read on the threads here, everyone last one of you deserves > > to make a profit on whatever it is that you do. I don't know what type of > thought process would even make you think for an instant that you needed to > reassure some patient that you weren't " making much " on what you sell. Why > shouldn't > you " make much? " Even if you charged what you would consider an exorbitant > fee for the herbs, you most likely would not match the prices that are > charged > for the newer pharmaceuticals. > > What is wrong with profit or even vast success in practice? > > Guy Porter > > [Jason] > > Guy, > > > > This is of course one opinion. I think Todd's point that, what MD's cannot > legally do and what naturopathics are recommended not to do are the ethical > standard for healthcare. You may disagree, but the point is that one > charges for the service and not the supplement (in house) because it is real > easy to recommend things that the patient does not need and make $$$ - This > protects the patient. But hey it is all a matter of perspective, like what > is wrong with making a profit by exploiting migrant workers? Nothing right?. > And BTW - I think that with healthcare picking up most of the cost for > P-Drugs, if you prescribed herbs (i.e. about $80 a month) you are most > likely going to be more expensive then what the patient pays for their > drug(s). Include in 1 supplement approx $30. you have $110 / month. That > is not cheap. But I stick by the ethical decision to not make profit from > herb sales. > > > > Finally, Patient's in my experience respect you greatly when you tell them > this. Many have been from practitioner to practitioner selling them every > supplement under the sun, knowing that these practitioners are making pure > profit from them. They are not happy about this and have expressed this to > me many times. I would be curious if you told every patient upfront that > you are making 100% profit off of the herbs that you are selling them. Many > would not care, I assume because they are getting better, but I bet many > would think twice. Just curious what they would say.. > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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