itchy eyes, allergies

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I have a question concerning allergies. IF one knows that an allergic

symptom is from an external source (i.e. pollen) and the patient just has

i.e. itchy eyes and no other external signs, is this considered an external

problem? Meaning would you disperse wind with i.e. fang geng, jing jie, bo

he, ju hua etc etc. ??/ In Sionneau there is a pattern of blood vacuity that

uses si wu tang quan xie and chuan wu (among a few others, I don't have the

book in front of me) to treat itchy eyes. This pattern could very well be

just from internal causes. So do you just treat what you see or look at the

etiology (vacuity + allergen.)

 

 

 

Allergies by definition, at least rhinitis, are a combination of excess and

vacuity. Would the same theories apply to the eye as the nose. IS there

any difference? Maciocia says that sneezing is by definition Kidney related.

So what is it in an allergy situation that makes one disperse external wind?

Let's say one has just sneezing and itchy eyes? I would say sneezing is by

definition external and internal, vacuity and excess. Would you agree? We

know to expel wind then when the symptoms are lessened to tonify the wei qi.

Or if severe, or long term, do both at once. Back to the eyes. How do we

know for sure what is triggering the itchy eyes, so the pollen count is up,

is that our indicator )or the season) or is there something to note that we

determine if there is an external cause, or does it matter. I don't have any

books in front of me unfortunately, so if someone has some insight it would

be greatly appreciated. Also, sorry about the slightly discombobulated post,

slightly tired, and not 100% clear on what I am saying, just thinking

through it.

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I've consistently gotten really good results just doing acupuncture

for itchy eyes. I use UB 2 (key point) with Lu 7, LI 4, St. 36.

Cupping the windgate is also helpful. You definitely want to use UB

2 with points that clear wind, and I add St. 36 for the inherent

deficiency.

 

 

 

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<@h...> wrote:

> I have a question concerning allergies. IF one knows that an

allergic

> symptom is from an external source (i.e. pollen) and the patient

just has

> i.e. itchy eyes and no other external signs, is this considered an

external

> problem? Meaning would you disperse wind with i.e. fang geng, jing

jie, bo

> he, ju hua etc etc. ??/ In Sionneau there is a pattern of blood

vacuity that

> uses si wu tang quan xie and chuan wu (among a few others, I don't

have the

> book in front of me) to treat itchy eyes. This pattern could very

well be

> just from internal causes. So do you just treat what you see or

look at the

> etiology (vacuity + allergen.)

>

>

>

> Allergies by definition, at least rhinitis, are a combination of

excess and

> vacuity. Would the same theories apply to the eye as the nose. IS

there

> any difference? Maciocia says that sneezing is by definition Kidney

related.

> So what is it in an allergy situation that makes one disperse

external wind?

> Let's say one has just sneezing and itchy eyes? I would say

sneezing is by

> definition external and internal, vacuity and excess. Would you

agree? We

> know to expel wind then when the symptoms are lessened to tonify

the wei qi.

> Or if severe, or long term, do both at once. Back to the eyes.

How do we

> know for sure what is triggering the itchy eyes, so the pollen

count is up,

> is that our indicator )or the season) or is there something to note

that we

> determine if there is an external cause, or does it matter. I don't

have any

> books in front of me unfortunately, so if someone has some insight

it would

> be greatly appreciated. Also, sorry about the slightly

discombobulated post,

> slightly tired, and not 100% clear on what I am saying, just

thinking

> through it.

>

>

>

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