Guest guest Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 Dave I think you missed my point. In practice I do use multiple modalities. I was mainly talking about research protocols. Nutrition is not something I consider separate from herbology, nor are other lifestyle issues like exercise and relaxation. Those are the cause of illness and must be part of any form of medicine. However to me, homeopathy and acupuncture are quite distinct. While there is some overlap between herbology and either homeopathy or acupuncture (more with the former, I actually believe), I think that in order to practice either of these other modalities at its highest level is a fairly separate study from that of herbology. I do use TCM acupuncture on all my patients, but I do not use homeopathy as I have never done an internship in this modality and I consider that unethical. However I can say unequivocally that in most internal med cases I treat, I think acupuncture is incidental and could be dispensed with, with no change in long term results. It is superb for musculo and stress and some functional disorders, but in int. med., it is mainly good for short term sx relief and that is why I do it. I know some of you will immediately think that if I practiced a different form of acupuncture, I would not find it so incidental in the long term. However I have worked in teaching clinics my entire career. My colleagues practice ortho styles, japanese, five element, balance method and TCM. Most of them are well respected experts in their various styles. And on the average, not a single one of them has any better long term results from Acupuncture than a chinese doing barbarian style deep needling TCM. It doesn't seem to have much to do with the style and everything to do with the patient. I personally cannot tolerate ortho styles and I know others who compare getting a japanese treatment to falling asleep at the opera (i.e. a waste of time). As for projecting confidence based upon personal experience, that is fine is you actually have experience. But again, seeing five self-selected hep C patients in five years does not give one the ethical right to tell a patient that you are an experienced and successful at treating hep C. Esp. if you did not do lab tests or any long term followup on those former pt. Sure, there is always a degree of self-selection in any medical encounter, but the hard sell has not been part of WM during the era of modern research. This really distorts things. So unless your patients have largely come to you through avenues other than hard selling TCM to the public, I do question the extent of one's actual " experience " . While I do not hard sell my patients, PCOM does and I know this skews things. I often find myself trying to mitigate this hard sell. If I actually have enough experience treating a particular complaint successfully, I will convey that. If there is research to suggest success,I will say that, too. If a condition is generally considered effectively treated by TCM alone in classical and modern books, I will convey that as well. But I will not pretend, as I know so many do, that TCM has been proven in either history or research to treat just about everything effectively. For while this will no doubt have some short term placebo benefit, I believe in the long term harm is actually done. For chronic internal illnesses, placebos rarely heal. Relief of symptoms or functional complaints for a period of time is common, but true spontaneous remissions are rare and rare enough that they would be a chance event, not a placebo effect. Patients may thus be deprived of care that would actually help (which we won't know without research). They will eventually relapse and join the ranks of satisfied acupuncture patients who are still sick. Chinese Herbs FAX: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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