Guest guest Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 Has anyone ever learned about gu syndrome. Heiner wrote an article on it in JCM years ago and Bob Flaws has also written on the topic and BP makes a popular formula for it. In Heiner's article, he includes some history. It was originally a concept from demonology. Evil sorcerers would go through various steps to extract a poison from some natural substance using magical means. Not some poison that killed you instantly, but an insidious poison that binds up with all your cells and is invisible to normal diagnostics. A gu dx was usually made after other dx had been tried and failed. Over the centuries, the concept had expanded to include insidious toxins accumulating from non-demonic causes. Heiner developed the naturalistic variant of this trend to include modern diseases like chronic viruses and candida. However if one considers that mycoplasma is not a natural occurring organism. It was " magically " created in a laboratory by extracting brucella nuclear material and treating with a virus. The result is neither bacteria nor virus, but basically a self-replicating toxin. The evil sorcerer has been replaced by the evil scientist, but the complete analogy is there. If this scenario has any truth to it, it ties together both the most ancient and most modern views of gu. I guess humans have always attempted to create agents of biological warfare. Chinese Herbs FAX: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 Todd TB is a mycoplasma, are you saying TB is man made? alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 In a message dated 9/7/2004 10:24:11 AM Central Daylight Time, writes: However if one considers that mycoplasma is not a natural occurring organism. It was " magically " created in a laboratory by extracting brucella nuclear material and treating with a virus. WHERE did you come up with that information? Guy Porter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2004 Report Share Posted September 11, 2004 In a message dated 9/11/2004 12:20:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, writes: I can't vouch for the accuracy (which is why I used the word IF), but it was in a link posted earlier. http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/mycoplasma.html this article above tries to make a case. a bit conspiratorial, but who knows? Most of the citations are old, but that does not invalidate them. if the author's hypothesis is correct, it explains why research on the subject has been suppressed. There does seem to be a correlation between this hypothesis and immunizations. If we were to go down this theoretical road, one could assume there is a conspiracy by government officials, something a lot of people seem to enjoy. Another road of understanding could be that the long term illness caused by immunizations is a result of how the immunizations are made, or even the fact that we are introducing " killed " pathogens into the body. I tend toward the later. Immunizations are manufactured from pathogens that have been killed. I believe some are grown in an animal medium. In the end, we are injecting lots of genetic materiel from foreign bodies, the result of which is unusual " new " pathogens. What do you think? Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2004 Report Share Posted September 11, 2004 , DrGRPorter@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 9/7/2004 10:24:11 AM Central Daylight Time, > @c... writes: > > However if > one considers that mycoplasma is not a natural occurring organism. It > was " magically " created in a laboratory by extracting brucella nuclear > material and treating with a virus. > > > WHERE did you come up with that information? I can't vouch for the accuracy (which is why I used the word IF), but it was in a link posted earlier. http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/mycoplasma.html this article above tries to make a case. a bit conspiratorial, but who knows? Most of the citations are old, but that does not invalidate them. if the author's hypothesis is correct, it explains why research on the subject has been suppressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2004 Report Share Posted September 11, 2004 , Musiclear@a... wrote: > > I tend toward the later. Immunizations are manufactured from pathogens > that have been killed. I believe some are grown in an animal medium. In the > end, we are injecting lots of genetic materiel from foreign bodies, the result > of which is unusual " new " pathogens. > > What do you think? An interesting hypothesis? I wonder how one could test that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2004 Report Share Posted September 11, 2004 Although conclusive research hasn't been done, I strongly suspect that problems with vaccines will continue to accumulate through the years as we keep adding new ones to the required list. I am also concerned with injecting foreign genetic material into the blood, but even more with combining vaccinations so that several different foreign proteins are introduced into the bloodstream at the same time. I suspect this may be one of the causes of increases in autoimmune disease. On Sep 11, 2004, at 9:57 AM, Musiclear wrote: > Another road of understanding could be that the long term illness > caused by > immunizations is a result of how the immunizations are made, or even > the fact > that we are introducing " killed " pathogens into the body. > > I tend toward the later. Immunizations are manufactured from > pathogens > that have been killed. I believe some are grown in an animal medium. > In the > end, we are injecting lots of genetic materiel from foreign bodies, > the result > of which is unusual " new " pathogens. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2004 Report Share Posted September 11, 2004 Correction: this should be foreign substances (it could be toxins, proteins or killed/weakened viruses or bacteria, depending on the vaccine, as I noted in another post). On Sep 11, 2004, at 8:16 PM, wrote: > but even more with > combining vaccinations so that several different foreign proteins are > introduced into the bloodstream at the same time. I suspect this may > be one of the causes of increases in autoimmune disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2004 Report Share Posted September 11, 2004 believe some are grown in an animal medium >>>>More often in eggs alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2004 Report Share Posted September 12, 2004 , " " <zrosenbe@s...> wrote: > Although conclusive research hasn't been done, I strongly suspect that > problems with vaccines will continue to accumulate through the years as > we keep adding new ones to the required list. I am also concerned with > injecting foreign genetic material into the blood, but even more with > combining vaccinations so that several different foreign proteins are > introduced into the bloodstream at the same time. I suspect this may > be one of the causes of increases in autoimmune disease. another example of misguided sorcerers perhaps. But vaccine makers were trying to help. the makers of weaponized mycoplasma were clearly evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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