Guest guest Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 Over the years a number of people have raised the question of whether autoimmune dz and lurking heat are related in any way. The idea has often been proposed on flimsy grounds which is then vigorously dismissed as lacking any precedent in the literature on one hand and no evidence of cure through this method on the other. As I read the Wen bing xue more closely, I think we should reconsider this idea again. I find Liu an easier read, but the contents are basically the same as the wen bing xue tr. by Sieffert. Liu adds cases and commentary, which are helpful to me. While I doubt that anyone ever developed a skin rash (exteriorization of lurking heat) and was subsequently permanently cured of an AI dz, there is certainly other evidence to the link the ideas. Consider spring-warmth again. One is kidney essence xu by birth or lifestyle (in WM, the potential to get an AI dz is definitely genetic). Then one gets a cold invasion. In my opinion, wind-cold invasions are more common in adults than wind heat. If one uses cold-bitter herbs or antibiotics at this point, the pathogen could become trapped. I include yin qiao san in this misuse. In WM, the genetic potential is unleashed by contact with a common virus. I wonder if the rise in AI dz parallels the rise in antibiotic use because one causes the other. Another theory of AI dz attributes antibiotic use to intestinal dysbiosis and spleen qi damage, thereby playing out as a systemic candida, food allergy, yin fire scenario. Spring-warmth seems apt as it is a cold pathogen that would be more likely to be trapped by misuse of cold herbs. If you look at the later stage patterns associated with spring warmth, you see excess patterns that involve rashes as in lupus and stirring of internal wind as in MS, especially when either appears in a young person. But I think it is the pattern of liver wind due to yin vacuity that really resembles some of the more advanced neurological presentations of illnesses like MS and ALS (Liu, pg. 295). However I typically find an anomaly in such cases that has cuased me to emphasize the treatment of dampheat and yin fire. That is the fairly ubiquitous presence of a sticky, dirty or yellow tongue coat in most such patients. Is it possible that dampheat is a key factor in a complex that may also include lurking spring-warmth. Damp-heat may account for the characteristic joint pain in may AI dz. As for the relationship between wen bing dampheat theory and Zhu-li medicine emphasizing yin fire, beginning on pg 411 Liu explains the progression of damp-warmth. He says it can go to dry heat and yin damage if heat predominates and injury to qi and yang if damp predominates or qi is already weak. If yin, blood and ying qi are damaged, one uses formulas for those patterns, with consideration for residual dampheat. Several other patterns can arise. One is a bloody stool pattern as in chrohn's or ulcerative colitis, the former always an AI dz, the latter sometimes (TCM:chronic dysentary). Another is spleen weakness with DH remnant, treated with light uplifting herbs like huo xiang, pei lan, but not tonics. And finally a yang xu edema treated with none other than zhen wu tang. From this perspective, exterior dampheat is the root that then can injur the spleen qi and yang, burn up the yin, even stagnate the qi dynamic, all pathomechanisms involved in the development of yin fire. If we assume some association between microorganisms, then microorganisms become a primary cause of illness. A person with constitutional yin vacuity could easily develop serious problems relatively early in life from a combination of dampheat and lurking spring-warmth. Liu associates exterior dampheat with food, either wrong food, contaminated food or indiscretions over a long period of time. One really does have to wonder how many low grade pathogens one gets exposed to just eating in restaraunts. Then consider the excessive use of antibiotics and weakened immunity and one could easily explain an epidemic of low grade infections where neither the pathogen nor the body can get the upper hand (thus remissions and excaerbations of AI illness due to a variety of factors that affect zheng and xie qi). Of course, a weak spleen does allow DH to linger in the first place, so which is chicken, which is egg? My hunch would be the pathomechanisms of complex diseases can be explained in part by yin fire, in part by damp-warmth and spring-warmth. I think they all logically dovetail together. In addressing dampheat, I have found strategies from the wen bing xue to be helpful. While I have found long term treatment with the yin fire method to be a sound strategy, I have much need for aggressive treatments directed at pathogenic factors in the initial stages. For damp-heat bi joint pain, xuan bi tang is great for dealing with the flaring of the dampheat, but it does not eliminate the illness. I am not sure one can eliminate the illness and that might be an inappropriate criteria for gauging the effectiveness of treatment of applicability of the theory. Chip Chace has written that a lurking pathogen is more of a syndrome than a pathogen, per se. And that it may be recurrent for that reason. When you consider this in the context of spring-warmth, it becomes clearer to me. If spring-warmth demands kidney vacuity as prerequisite, then the person who tends to spring-wamrth by birth will always tend to be invaded by evils that are not fully dispelled or at least leave some permanent damage. As Liu quotes from the wen yi lun, if xie qi is not strong enough to fight against zheng qi, it just lurks and does not make trouble for the body. It lurks in the qi level. And the heat develops from constraint of the cold pathogen (see more on this below). As I read Liu, it appears he is saying that if the zheng qi is strong, the pathogen will remain more superficial and move deep if the zheng qi is weak. As I have noted, this is the opposite of what Liu writes for warm pathogens in general and thus I have come to wonder if the distinction is that spring-warmth starts as a cold pathogen and qi stagnation leading to heat is a key part of the pathomechanism. BTW, I have left lurking summerheat out of this discussion as it appears to be a different animal. Whileit may be involved in many diseases, even chronic ones, in some parts of the world, its acuity and seasonality are considered key diagnsotic points, while Liu poijnts out that spring-warmth can actually surface all year round, even without a secondary exterior invasion. Several things come to mind as a result of all of this. In some cases, the lurking pathogen can be expelled. At least some autoimmune processes seem self-limited, which suggests the body can overcome it. Perhaps in these cases, herbs can increase the chance of this. In others, the pathogen can be held at bay, but inbron constitutional weakness (such as the yin vacuity of spring-wamrth) might make it impossible to ever fully expel the pathogen, so the lurking evil complex is lifelong. But herbs can keep it from getting worse and partially or repeatedly expel it. Subhuti pointed out long ago that aggressive prevention and treatment of viral infections and exterior invasions should be a key to preventing the onset and worsening of AI dz. All such patients should have any wind invasions and/or flareups of internal heat treated immediately and aggressively. In spring-warmth patients, a secondary wind-cold invasion can immediately transform to heat and will then cause the lurking complex to manifest. With some of the discrepancies in theory, it is hard to know whether it makes sense to to supplement or drain or fast in the remission stage. However there is at least one more clue in Liu (and no doubt many more elsewhere in chinese). In this case, it comes from the wind-warmth section, but the advice given seems to be of a genral nature. On pg. 229, when discussing why dan shen is in qing ying tang, Liu quotes Zhao shao qin, " Once it becomes stagnant, qi is unable to battle with the warm heat pathogen, which then remains in the ying. Any method that can restore qi circulation, especially when combined with clearing heat from the nutritive level and enriching yin, should be helpful in moving the warm heat pathogen to the qi level [from where it can be expelled] " . That would seem to say that the best approach to dealing with an internal pathogen is moving qi and as Liu says, also moving, blood, food and phlegm. In other words, dispersing pathogenic factors directly may be an ideal approach to helping the body recover from some seemingly chronic vacuity illnesses. The wen bing theorists were certainly in line with zhu dan xi vis a vis dampheat and yin xu. They tended to the spleen mainly with fragrant and bland herbs. And while they liked blood and yin tonics, they seemed to largely shy away from qi and yang tonics. Many of the classical patterns involve severe fevers which would do great damage to the yin and blood. The people were also largely malnourished. In modern times, most people do not develop high fevers during any illness due to antipyretic use (aspirin, tylenol). This may be another factor that leads to easily trapped pathogens. Fever could clear a cold pathogen in many cases if you let it manifest, right? But the lack of fever may change something else as well, the degree of yin damage. Also, with our diets overabundant with yin nourishing substances like protein and fat and carbs and lack of vital yang substances like enzymes and vitamins and co-factors, we are likely to have significant damp and phlegm as a foundation. This is a clear example of the vital necessity of adapting strategies to circumstances. I have a new transfer student who began her internship elsehwere. And in that other place she was fairly well indoctrinated by a kanpo afficionado who had taught her that classical formulas were sacrosanct and should not be adjusted in any way from the source text. I find this japanese idea ironic as it is so not chinese. Chinese SHL px do indeed modify their rx and all I have studies with make a point of noting this. CM is rooted in the yi jing, the classic of changes, change being the only constant. This is the heart of chinese philosophy, IMO and thus to declare anything as unchangeable is what seems anthema to me. In the case of wen bing formulas, if one were to just uncritically apply such formulas, your patients will end up with yang vacuity and phlegm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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