Guest guest Posted September 25, 2004 Report Share Posted September 25, 2004 I have been studying warm disease theory lately and stumbled across the following on page 412 of Liu's Warm Diseases: A Clinical Guide. Prolonged dampheat can lead to heat in the blood and ying levels damaging yin and blood and causing internal wind symptoms. I immediately thought of an eye twitch case in the PCOM that seemed to be responding to dampheat clearing herbs. The patient was blood xu and had wind. For 9 months before I saw her, she had been on blood tonics to no avail. I switched her to wind calming, qi regulating and little heat clearing and she did well as long as she was on the herbs. We maintained that plateau for some time until one day when the patient came in and had developed a flareup of her symptoms concomitant with a binge of greasy food, alcohol. Her tongue coat was extremely greasy, thick and yellow. So we cleared dampheat vigorously to improve digestion and bowels and the patient's eyes improved dramatically as a result. Thus dampheat seemed to be a factor in some way. Perhaps it stirred a lurking pathogen. Emotions are another factor that stir lurking pathogens. This condition also worsened with stress. There are of course other explanations, but bear with me. I have been reading Liu to get a clearer understanding of Lurking pathogens. And I have had a growing suspicion that various microorganisms may play a contributory role in many chronic illnesses. There is clearly some overlap between warm disease theory and the germ theory. There is also some overlap between herbs that clear dampheat or toxin and antimicrobial activity. We always assume that patients with symptoms stretching back to childhood probably have some emotional trauma at its root, but perhaps we are overlooking something quite critical. While this is one possibility (and the internal pathomechanisms can be explained by reference to yin fire in such cases), children also often have unusual infections. These infections are typically treated poorly at best by both parents and doctors. The likelihood that lurking pathogens are widespread in our culture is quite high, IMO. Certainly, in traditional chinese culture, there was at least as much emphasis on exterior pathogens and epidemic qi as the starting point of many chronic illnesses as there was on internal emotional factors. I think we are mistaken if we think this has changed. Arguably, we have become even more clever over the centuries at figuring out how to trap pathogens. The patient in question has such a thick tongue coat, I am quite curious what kind of bugs may be growing in her. A comprehensive stool culture often reveals some unwelcome microbes. There are blood tests to reveal others. Perhaps this is an example of where lab tests can reveal something TCM cannot. Liu says when the lurking pathogen is lurking, you cannot know it by signs and symptoms because there are none. You can suspect it by history of repeated flareups or insidious yin damage, but knowing for sure this is the etiology is not so easy in practice according to Liu. It really is a diagnosis of exclusion to some degree. Recurrent sudden onset of internal sx with no other etiology is one clue. 1. there are number of chronic diseases that lend themselves to warm disease analysis 2. most such illnesses are thought by many to be initiated by a microorganism (RA, lupus, MS, diabetes type 1, AIDS, CFIDS 3. blood tests and stool cultures tend to reveal abnormal microorganisms in most such patients 4. therapies that reliably decrease pathogens and improve immune function relieve symptoms in many cases 5. many such cases report food sensitivities, however these may actually be low grade infections or poisonings as well. It would seem to follow from the above that blood and stool tests may be a perfectly sensible modern diagnostic for lurking heat. I am not suggesting that there is 100% overlap, but since the lurking heat dx is basically one of exclusion, it would be very interesting to find out if we had a diagnostic to reliably reveal the invisible in a situation where the chinese had not developed one. In other words, in what % of cases of unusual illnesses are abnormal microorganisms present and how highly does correction of flora balance correlate with improved health? Keep in mind, I am not suggesting that antibiotics will cure all disease. in fact, much pathogen overgrowth are normal flora. So the cure typically includes tonics to rebuild normal immunity and zheng qi. Chinese Herbs FAX: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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