Guest guest Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 Does anyone know the publication date of the new Bensky edition? It was supposed to be August 31. The previous edition is no longer available (except used at Amazon etc) and I'm afraid we (herb teachers) might have to require Chen and Chen for the Materia Medica textbook starting in January. Does anyone have any information? Julie Chambers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 , JulieJ8 <Juliej8@b...> wrote: > Does anyone know the publication date of the new Bensky edition? It was > supposed to be August 31. The previous edition is no longer available > (except used at Amazon etc) and I'm afraid we (herb teachers) might have to > require Chen and Chen for the Materia Medica textbook starting in January. > Does anyone have any information? > > Julie Chambers According to the website, the publication date was September 20, 2004. It was supposed to be available after that date. However, I still have not received my pre-order. This is really bad practice for Eastland Press because they charged my debit card back in August and are just sitting on my money indefinitely. Brian C. Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 > > According to the website, the publication date was September 20, 2004. > It was supposed to be available after that date. However, I still > have not received my pre-order. This is really bad practice for > Eastland Press because they charged my debit card back in August and > are just sitting on my money indefinitely. > > Brian C. Allen Brian, I also pre-ordered, but I asked Eastland not to charge my credit card until the book shipped. I just need to know if it will be available for my students to purchase in time for the January semester. Julie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 , JulieJ8 <Juliej8@b...> wrote: I'm afraid we (herb teachers) might have to > require Chen and Chen for the Materia Medica textbook starting in January. wouldn't that be ironic? If we had to do this, there would be no harm done, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 You could do a lot worse than Chen and Chen's new book. I'd say that the Chen book is the new standard. Best regards, Robert Chu, L.Ac., QME, PhD chusauli2003 bcataiji <bcaom wrote: , JulieJ8 <Juliej8@b...> wrote: > Does anyone know the publication date of the new Bensky edition? It was > supposed to be August 31. The previous edition is no longer available > (except used at Amazon etc) and I'm afraid we (herb teachers) might have to > require Chen and Chen for the Materia Medica textbook starting in January. > Does anyone have any information? > > Julie Chambers According to the website, the publication date was September 20, 2004. It was supposed to be available after that date. However, I still have not received my pre-order. This is really bad practice for Eastland Press because they charged my debit card back in August and are just sitting on my money indefinitely. Brian C. Allen Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 Hi Julie The WEB-site says it will be available from September 30 2004, so one would expect it any day now. You could ask John O'Connor from Eastland Press directly at: info @ eastlandpress.com Best wishes Alwin , JulieJ8 <Juliej8@b...> wrote: > Does anyone know the publication date of the new Bensky edition? It was > supposed to be August 31. The previous edition is no longer available > (except used at Amazon etc) and I'm afraid we (herb teachers) might have to > require Chen and Chen for the Materia Medica textbook starting in January. > Does anyone have any information? > > Julie Chambers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 , " bcataiji " <bcaom@c...> wrote: This is really bad practice for > Eastland Press because they charged my debit card back in August and > are just sitting on my money indefinitely. > I think the whole reason for preorders is to generate immediate revenues. It is standard to charge for a preorder immediately and I am surprised that Eastland would accept a preorder and NOT charge for it. What purpose would it serve? They would be better off just letting you order the book when you are ready to pay. I assume preordering got you a discount and got them some cash flow. No harm, no foul, unless the order is not fulfilled. If the books have not been shipped and there will be a long delay and no notification has been given, then that is bad practice. But we are just a week from the projected shipping date, so perhaps there is no cause for alarm. If people are concerned, why not call Eastland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 , Robert Chu <chusauli2003> wrote: > You could do a lot worse than Chen and Chen's new book. I'd say that the Chen book is the new standard. The chen book is perfectly fine for materia medica classes, but as the new standard, that is arguable. Chen puts much emphasis on modern research and pharmacology, which I think is essential. However, for a clinical perspective, I think the new Bensky is far more useful. Chen's pharmacology data has no effect on my practice, however the new commentary and translation from Steve Clavey in Bensky has alread enhanced my understanding and that was just from reading the small PDF promo file. If you put more stock in the traditional literature as the basis for practice, then it remains to be seen what is the new standard. I said before that that previous versions of Bensky were just reference books, not textbooks. The new version of Bensky is a true textbook as it goes into great depth in the classical literature. Chen is perhaps now the standard basic reference book, but as a text it offers little new insight into understanding the topic in depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 Todd's absolutely correct. Prepublication sales are meant to help defray the initial printing costs. Of course Eastland ran the credit card. That's exactly why you get the discount. They are willing to reduce their margin of profit in exchange for easing their cash flow. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 My understanding is that the release date was moved up to 9/20, but I still haven't seen any copies. We are in the same predicament at PCOM. On Sep 28, 2004, at 9:12 PM, JulieJ8 wrote: > Does anyone know the publication date of the new Bensky edition? It was > supposed to be August 31. The previous edition is no longer available > (except used at Amazon etc) and I'm afraid we (herb teachers) might > have to > require Chen and Chen for the Materia Medica textbook starting in > January. > Does anyone have any information? > > Julie Chambers > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, > including board approved continuing education classes, an annual > conference and a free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 At 5:19 PM +0000 9/29/04, wrote: >But we are just a week from the projected shipping >date, so perhaps there is no cause for alarm. -- My understanding is that the books are " on the trucks " and should be entering the distribution chain this week or early next, so should be arriving on your doorstep fairly soon. Rory -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 's absolutely correct. Prepublication sales are meant to help > defray the initial printing costs. Of course Eastland ran the credit > card. That's exactly why you get the discount. They are willing to > reduce their margin of profit in exchange for easing their cash flow. Well, they didn't run mine, and said I could still get the discount. I wasn't trying to get away with anything! If they are going to pre-charge, then I think they at least should meet their publication date. Of course, I know nothing about unforseen events in the publishing world. Julie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 The new Bensky has showed up and it looks very, very good. I definetely think it was worth the wait. It seems like its going to be very useful for both the classroom and the experienced clinician. Nice layout, big, a lot of comparisons and combinations. Alot of discussion about look-alike herbs which will shake things up beyond the English speaking readers. doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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