Guest guest Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 LHC has left the door open to use codes other than ICD-9 in order to make insurance claims. But are there any? It was suggested to me that a set of codes applicable to OM are currently being tested. They are the ABC codes. But I believe these codes are not diagnostic codes. They are procedure codes and should be compared to CPT codes, not ICD-9. see more at http://www.alternativelink.com/ali/ARTpertinent_link/ARTInter_Journal00.asp an alternative set of diagnostic codes unique to OM would allow us to make claims for lung wilt due to yin vacuity (BTW, another coup for the wiseman crowd; the only way to use codes of this nature is with a standard vocuabulary. We can't agree amongst ourselves what to call things, but we want insurers to reimburse us anyway. uh-huh). In order to develop the OM diagnostic codes, we need to have professional standards of care so there is some inter-rater reliability to these dx. It does no good to label something if the definition of the label is allowed to shift at the whim of the px. This gets back to how do we prove our diagnoses exist in the real world and that we can reliably identify and treat them? The sole answer is research, which brings us full circle to the issue of EBM. LHC has suggested that our scope may need to be restricted based upon the existing evidence. That it must be explicit about what we can and cannot treat. Several times the report alluded to the fact that we can treat all areas of the body as if this may not be appropriate. Perhaps some of this sounds familiar, as it resembles a lot of what I have been writing here for years. We need research to prove our dx are real, our rx are active, our strategies are effective and all three of these are intimately linked. If we do not do these things, we may see ourselves go the route of the chiros, limited to treating a few pain complaints, at least if you want reimbursement. I won't claim to have vision, but I can see the writing on the wall. So what's next. I bet we put our heads in the sand and just hope for the best. Again, forestalling necessary research under the pretense that something else is more important. Because if we have nothing to bring to the table when we are stripped of our rights to use current ICD9 codes, then it could be months or years before the problem is rectified. The time is now to work to avoid any or all of the nightmare scenarios that are possible. First, people said sit tight and wait for LHC. Now the same people are saying sit tight and wait for the legislature. The position of the LHC was predictable, though. As is the response of the legislature. We need a contingency plan now. The beauty is that research can only help, even in the best case scenario, so why not. We should support the society for acupuncture research as the current best organized entity working towards this goal. However CHA has a direct interest in this as well. I have expended much time and energy here lobbying for essential research. However I am perhaps too personally controversial for CHA as my sole proprietorship to be recipient of the funding for this goal. That is why I have proposed creating a nonprofit entity with a board to work on developing professional diagnostic standards and codes, demonstrating interrater reliability of dx, validity of zang-fu paradigm and clinical efficacy of herbology for a wide range of complaints. The board, not me, would handle all finacial matters. We would need 1000 members to donate $500 each to get the ball rolling on grantwriting and translation projects. I would be glad to participate at the discretion of the board as an employee involved in coordination of these various projects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 LHC has left the door open to use codes other than ICD-9 in order to make insurance claims. But are there any? It was suggested to me that a set of codes applicable to OM are currently being tested. They are the ABC codes. But I believe these codes are not diagnostic codes. They are procedure codes and should be compared to CPT codes, not ICD-9. <<<First i do not think the ABC codes have disease codes they are procedure codes if i am not mistaken. Second if you think that mainstream will ever take kidney yin def seriously you are dreaming. If we let go of the right to make a diagnosis we can kiss our assess good buy. Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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