Guest guest Posted November 5, 2004 Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 How's the Pacific Symposium this year? I guess what I mean more specifically is how is the attendance this year? Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 , " Bob Flaws " <pemachophel2001> wrote: > > > > How's the Pacific Symposium this year? I guess what I mean more > specifically is how is the attendance this year? > > Bob Attendance seems good, though everyone attends the human potential stuff and no one attends the internal medicine oriented lectures. I agree with Z'ev and it just underscores my oft expressed thoughts here. While there are many cleavage points in the field of OM, this one is the crux. While human potential psychology has long been an interest of mine, I discovered long ago that it had not been an interest of the chinese docs who wrote the herbal classics. So any speculation in this area vis a vis CM was just that. While it may indeed have therapeutic value, it has nothing to do with CM, per se. It is also largely discredited by WM and thus allying with these forces just diminishes us further. Personally, I think the most important findings of the human potential movement must be applied in the context of public education, not therapy, in order to have lasting value to society. A bunch of rich white folks exploring their emotions ad nauseum offers little to benefit the world. As for the " beauty is health " crowd, I think they are a fairly transparent bunch, a logical outcome of southern california culture. Ironic how self cultivation down here has somehow become a license to indulge the seven deadly sins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 I wonder if its easier to attend (and program) something " new and different " ala " human potential " than CM. Giving someone a few hours of a new therapy or concept goes over better in these small bites. Talking to a diverse crowd, from student to experienced teacher, about cancer treatments is not so easy in a couple of hours.. Could this be a reason they are better attended? doug > > Attendance seems good, though everyone attends the human potential stuff and no one > attends the internal medicine oriented lectures. I agree with Z'ev and it just underscores > my oft expressed thoughts here. While there are many cleavage points in the field of OM, > this one is the crux. While human potential psychology has long been an interest of mine, > I discovered long ago that it had not been an interest of the chinese docs who wrote the > herbal classics. So any speculation in this area vis a vis CM was just that. While it may > indeed have therapeutic value, it has nothing to do with CM, per se. It is also largely > discredited by WM and thus allying with these forces just diminishes us further. > Personally, I think the most important findings of the human potential movement must be > applied in the context of public education, not therapy, in order to have lasting value to > society. A bunch of rich white folks exploring their emotions ad nauseum offers little to > benefit the world. As for the " beauty is health " crowd, I think they are a fairly transparent > bunch, a logical outcome of southern california culture. Ironic how self cultivation down > here has somehow become a license to indulge the seven deadly sins. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 , " " wrote: > > I wonder if its easier to attend (and program) something " new and different " ala " human > potential " than CM. Giving someone a few hours of a new therapy or concept goes over > better in these small bites. Talking to a diverse crowd, from student to experienced > teacher, about cancer treatments is not so easy in a couple of hours.. > Could this be a reason they are better attended? I think it is because a large % of the attendees are more interested in human potential psychology, self-cultivation, etc. than they are in medicine, science, research, herbs. There is really nothing wrong with this, but it is the common domain of acupuncture, chiropractic, naturopathy, massage, psychology and holistic health as well as the spa industry. The distinguishing characteristic of CM is not all this, but the the study and application of the chinese medical literature and associated modern research. Yet that remains by far the smallest part of our profession amongst anglo practitioners. We struggle for legitimacy, yet much of what goes on in the field is regular fodder for sitcom and latenight talkshow humor, not to mention AM radio. We cannot underestimate the images that the public will buy into when they are insidiously and repeatedly inserted into many aspects of pop culture. And the real CM gets lost in the shuffle. Most of the attendees are not looking for something " new and different " . They were never interested in the " old and the same " in the first place. I think a good lecture like Craig Mitchell's can inspire one to go deeper in the actual tradition. It was quite interesting, BTW. This new and different excuse is just some form of profession wide ADHD. but it looks like the LHC may put a stop to all this nonsense in CEUs anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 > > > Monday, November 08, 2004 1:09 PM > > Re: Pacific Symposium > > > > , " Bob Flaws " > <pemachophel2001> > wrote: > > > > > > > > How's the Pacific Symposium this year? I guess what I mean more > > specifically is how is the attendance this year? > > > > Bob > > Attendance seems good, though everyone attends the human potential stuff > and no one > attends the internal medicine oriented lectures. I agree with Z'ev and it > just underscores > my oft expressed thoughts here. While there are many cleavage points in > the field of OM, > this one is the crux. While human potential psychology has long been an > interest of mine, > I discovered long ago that it had not been an interest of the chinese docs > who wrote the > herbal classics. So any speculation in this area vis a vis CM was just > that. While it may > indeed have therapeutic value, it has nothing to do with CM, per se. It > is also largely > discredited by WM and thus allying with these forces just diminishes us > further. [Jason] I just heard that the 1st Acu school is the US was a Worsley one, is this true? - > Personally, I think the most important findings of the human potential > movement must be > applied in the context of public education, not therapy, in order to have > lasting value to > society. A bunch of rich white folks exploring their emotions ad nauseum > offers little to > benefit the world. As for the " beauty is health " crowd, I think they are > a fairly transparent > bunch, a logical outcome of southern california culture. Ironic how self > cultivation down > here has somehow become a license to indulge the seven deadly sins. > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including > board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a > free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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