RE: False Heat both excess and vacuity

[Guest guest]

Alon,

 

I am unsure of the discrepancy here, for example, vacuity heat in my

understanding is just any heat that comes from a deficiency.

 

As far as your idea that some Chinese use false heat for (also) vacuous

patterns, check out this Chinese quote,

 

" For false heat one should warm the person's true yang. If the center is

warm then the vacuous fire will return to its source. " Also as a treatment

principle they say " boost and replenish the true yang "

 

They do not say disperse excess cold as the treatment principle. So one

could make an argument for there being vacuous yang.

 

But more clear is when it is said (later on) that both 'internal cold

repelling yang and vacuous yang failing to constrain' are both listed as

causes for false heat.

 

It seems any fire w/o root can be said to be false fire (by some)...

 

It also seems that in this discussion false heat or false cold is not an

exclusive life threatening separation of yin and yang or anything... Just a

pattern that can occur...

 

On should also remember that the disease of fa re (fever or heat effusion)

can come about from qi or yang vacuity... Some would also say that this is

just a false heat presentation, coming from a vacuity. (because you treat

with warming medicinals)

 

Again this lesson seems instructive in one not being too confined by 1

presentation from 1 book or dictionary being the only way... Chinese use

terms in many ways, just like we see in English. Some are what one may

call, 'more precise' and some are 'more liberal', for better or worse. We

should remember that we probably have about 1% of Chinese translated and

there are a lot of authors out there.

 

A further look at how Chinese use the term jia (false). They also refer to

false excess and false deficiency [patterns] and even false macules.

 

 

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> Alon Marcus [alonmarcus]

> Monday, November 29, 2004 1:53 AM

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> Re: False Heat misused?

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> " False-heat " , however, indicates heat from an underlying deficiency which

> could be worsened by an excessive consumption of cool foods. "

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> >>>>>This is not a good example because it is partly true, even though not

> comprehensive. What I am arguing is that in China some practitioners

> clearly use false heat for both excess and deficient conditions.

> Consumption of cold foods/herbs is contraindicated for uprooted of yang

> qi/ or mingmen with so called false heat symptoms/signs

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[Guest guest]

Again this lesson seems instructive in one not being too confined by 1

presentation from 1 book or dictionary being the only way... Chinese use

terms in many ways, just like we see in English. Some are what one may

call, 'more precise' and some are 'more liberal', for better or worse. We

should remember that we probably have about 1% of Chinese translated and

there are a lot of authors out there.

 

>>>>Thanks Jason that is what i was trying to say