Guest guest Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 In a message dated 1/29/2005 7:16:47 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, writes: http://.org/herbs1_reader.html Hi Todd I have a new XP and I can see your slides. The light blue colour of the sky makes it difficult to read the white letters. I can't see any arrows to click to hear sounds.. Hope this helps, Mary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 For those who want to use the course reader as a study guide, here is what you need http://www..org/intro_herbology_syllabus.html Chinese Herbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 I have a desktop and a laptop both using XP. With the desktop I can read it just fine but on the laptop I get only the orange leaves on a white background which is very difficult to read. The alternating orange and yellow colors make the text quite hard to see. Alec Maines >>I have XP(yes I know, please don't laugh too much) and I get no >sound and the slides are quite difficult to read because of the >color contrast and leaf pattern. >Jill Likkel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 You've done a very nice job with the material. I may be a bit 'old and cranky' about this, but I do have reservations about Powerpoint technology. It looks great with the individual herbs and pictures, but some of the material that is presented here is basic outline stuff, and Powerpoint makes it look what I would describe as 'too arbitrary'. I could easily plug in a lot of my material that I use for overheads into Powerpoint, but presently I am examining Apple's two new iWork programs, Keynote and Pages, for hopefully a more flexible and artistic appearance. Also, don't we have limits on use of Powerpoint projectors? can I have a powerpoint file of Herbs I sent to me directly so I can try to plug it into Keynote? Thanks, On Jan 29, 2005, at 7:15 PM, wrote: > This is the latest updated version of herbs 1 online. It now has some > sound added to it in the form of a few herb names. So far the only > browser I am sure you can listen to the sound and see everything > formatted properly with is explorer in mac OSX. Safari and firefox > show all the images and text, but do not play the sound. If I use > keynote to insert the files, maybe it will work in other browsers. > > http://.org/herbs1_reader.html > > You can also listen to the sound on explorer in windows, but neither > my > windows 98 nor 2000 formats the backgrounds properly. Could someone > let me know how this looks and sounds in XP? Users of those machines > can view the presentation best on an older system with firefox (I > assume mozilla, beonex and netscape also work). However there will be > no sound with those browsers. > > For those who can, sound is heard by clicking the links that look like > arrows on these slides: 33,35,39,4, 47, 50, 56, 58 > > > > Chinese Herbs > > > > > > > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, > including board approved continuing education classes, an annual > conference and a free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 > " Warren Sheir " <wsheir > January 30, 2005 10:20:21 AM PST > " " < > Re: Herbs 1 online > > Hi > The sound works fine for the herb names. In XP you must right click > the sound icon and then left click on play. > Warren Chinese Herbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 Z'ev thanks. first things first. The online version still has some issues I did not realize. Some changes that I have added directly to the webpages only show up in explorer. So right now only explorer has the correct presentation and you can only read it on a mac. While you may think this was simply done, I have already spent 10 hours on it this weekend and won't be able to update again until next weekend. The most important update includes the title page which should have always read created by Bob Damone and In fact, Bob created most of the original powerpoint presentation from outlines used in herbs 1. I had tweaked these outlines a little when I taught the class for a few years after Bob. Then Bob took all of the existing material and put it in powerpoint form, for aesthetics as well as convenience. I then took this material, updated it for the new Bensky, formatted it for the web and added sounds. The sounds are a new feature that is not possible with overheads. As is the web version, which allows me to update this weekly for my students. I have no idea what you refer to as arbitrary. But this is merely an outline of the contents of the required books assigned at PCOM in herbs 1. If anything is arbitrary, it is this syllabus, but that was designed by the department you chair long before I ever got to PCOM. So you will have to take responsibility for that. As for the ease of doing this, it is quite time consuming to format, find pictures, scan, insert characters and sounds, etc. Not to mention the learning curve for all the software involved (dreamweaver, powerpoint and fetch). It is most certainly not something you could simply do and I would not have ever undertaken my portion if Bob had not already put in so much time. As for keynote, I have played around with that and it is not much different than powerpoint, except that it seems to have LESS features and abilities according to reviews I have read. Anything you are planning to do with keynote I am sure could be done with powerpoint. While I am a fan of most mac apps, this has nothing to do with apps. the only reason keynote might be better for you is it may be more intuitive and easier to master the basics for a longtime mac user. But powerpoint really has no limitations on art and flexibility. You are just familiar with a limited range of its uses. On Jan 30, 2005, at 12:36 PM, wrote: > > > You've done a very nice job with the material. I may be a bit 'old > and cranky' about this, but I do have reservations about Powerpoint > technology. It looks great with the individual herbs and pictures, but > some of the material that is presented here is basic outline stuff, and > Powerpoint makes it look what I would describe as 'too arbitrary'. I > could easily plug in a lot of my material that I use for overheads into > Powerpoint, but presently I am examining Apple's two new iWork > programs, Keynote and Pages, for hopefully a more flexible and artistic > appearance. Also, don't we have limits on use of Powerpoint > projectors? > > can I have a powerpoint file of Herbs I sent to me directly > so > I can try to plug it into Keynote? > > Thanks, > > > On Jan 29, 2005, at 7:15 PM, wrote: > >> This is the latest updated version of herbs 1 online. It now has some >> sound added to it in the form of a few herb names. So far the only >> browser I am sure you can listen to the sound and see everything >> formatted properly with is explorer in mac OSX. Safari and firefox >> show all the images and text, but do not play the sound. If I use >> keynote to insert the files, maybe it will work in other browsers. >> >> http://.org/herbs1_reader.html >> >> You can also listen to the sound on explorer in windows, but neither >> my >> windows 98 nor 2000 formats the backgrounds properly. Could someone >> let me know how this looks and sounds in XP? Users of those machines >> can view the presentation best on an older system with firefox (I >> assume mozilla, beonex and netscape also work). However there will >> be >> no sound with those browsers. >> >> For those who can, sound is heard by clicking the links that look >> like >> arrows on these slides: 33,35,39,4, 47, 50, 56, 58 >> >> >> >> Chinese Herbs >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > Chinese Herbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 By arbitrary, I mean the limits of the Powerpoint format, not the material. The material is excellent. I understand that the learning curve for this stuff takes time. . . I haven't certainly caught up yet with Powerpoint! I was just trying to point out that every time I see a Powerpoint presentation on Chinese medicine, such as those at the Pacific Symposium last year, it looks exactly the same, with little or no variation of fonts, appearance, layout or overall presentation. This, in my opinion looks very 'flat'. This is why I am looking at Keynote, as it seems to have more built-in flexibility. On Jan 30, 2005, at 8:10 PM, wrote: > > I have no idea what you refer to as arbitrary. But this is merely an > outline of the contents of the required books assigned at PCOM in > herbs > 1. If anything is arbitrary, it is this syllabus, but that was > designed by the department you chair long before I ever got to PCOM. > So you will have to take responsibility for that. As for the ease of > doing this, it is quite time consuming to format, find pictures, scan, > insert characters and sounds, etc. Not to mention the learning curve > for all the software involved (dreamweaver, powerpoint and fetch). It > is most certainly not something you could simply do and I would not > have ever undertaken my portion if Bob had not already put in so much > time. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 Explorer in XP reads the files as .png whereas on other browsers they are GIF files. Warren > Z'ev > > thanks. > > first things first. The online version still has some issues I did not > realize. Some changes that I have added directly to the webpages only > show up in explorer. > > So right now only explorer has the correct presentation and you can > only read it on a mac. While you may think this was simply done, I > have already spent 10 hours on it this weekend and won't be able to > update again until next weekend. > > The most important update includes the title page which should have > always read > > created by Bob Damone and > > In fact, Bob created most of the original powerpoint presentation from > outlines used in herbs 1. I had tweaked these outlines a little when I > taught the class for a few years after Bob. Then Bob took all of the > existing material and put it in powerpoint form, for aesthetics as well > as convenience. I then took this material, updated it for the new > Bensky, formatted it for the web and added sounds. The sounds are a > new feature that is not possible with overheads. As is the web > version, which allows me to update this weekly for my students. > > I have no idea what you refer to as arbitrary. But this is merely an > outline of the contents of the required books assigned at PCOM in herbs > 1. If anything is arbitrary, it is this syllabus, but that was > designed by the department you chair long before I ever got to PCOM. > So you will have to take responsibility for that. As for the ease of > doing this, it is quite time consuming to format, find pictures, scan, > insert characters and sounds, etc. Not to mention the learning curve > for all the software involved (dreamweaver, powerpoint and fetch). It > is most certainly not something you could simply do and I would not > have ever undertaken my portion if Bob had not already put in so much > time. > > As for keynote, I have played around with that and it is not much > different than powerpoint, except that it seems to have LESS features > and abilities according to reviews I have read. Anything you are > planning to do with keynote I am sure could be done with powerpoint. > While I am a fan of most mac apps, this has nothing to do with apps. > the only reason keynote might be better for you is it may be more > intuitive and easier to master the basics for a longtime mac user. But > powerpoint really has no limitations on art and flexibility. You are > just familiar with a limited range of its uses. > > > On Jan 30, 2005, at 12:36 PM, wrote: > > > > > > > You've done a very nice job with the material. I may be a bit 'old > > and cranky' about this, but I do have reservations about Powerpoint > > technology. It looks great with the individual herbs and pictures, but > > some of the material that is presented here is basic outline stuff, and > > Powerpoint makes it look what I would describe as 'too arbitrary'. I > > could easily plug in a lot of my material that I use for overheads into > > Powerpoint, but presently I am examining Apple's two new iWork > > programs, Keynote and Pages, for hopefully a more flexible and artistic > > appearance. Also, don't we have limits on use of Powerpoint > > projectors? > > > > can I have a powerpoint file of Herbs I sent to me directly > > so > > I can try to plug it into Keynote? > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > On Jan 29, 2005, at 7:15 PM, wrote: > > > >> This is the latest updated version of herbs 1 online. It now has some > >> sound added to it in the form of a few herb names. So far the only > >> browser I am sure you can listen to the sound and see everything > >> formatted properly with is explorer in mac OSX. Safari and firefox > >> show all the images and text, but do not play the sound. If I use > >> keynote to insert the files, maybe it will work in other browsers. > >> > >> http://.org/herbs1_reader.html > >> > >> You can also listen to the sound on explorer in windows, but neither > >> my > >> windows 98 nor 2000 formats the backgrounds properly. Could someone > >> let me know how this looks and sounds in XP? Users of those machines > >> can view the presentation best on an older system with firefox (I > >> assume mozilla, beonex and netscape also work). However there will > >> be > >> no sound with those browsers. > >> > >> For those who can, sound is heard by clicking the links that look > >> like > >> arrows on these slides: 33,35,39,4, 47, 50, 56, 58 > >> > >> > >> > >> Chinese Herbs > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Chinese Herbs > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 , " " <zrosenbe@s...> wrote: > By arbitrary, I mean the limits of the Powerpoint format, not the > material. The material is excellent. I understand that the learning > curve for this stuff takes time. . . I haven't certainly caught up yet > with Powerpoint! I was just trying to point out that every time I see > a Powerpoint presentation on Chinese medicine, such as those at the > Pacific Symposium last year, it looks exactly the same, with little or > no variation of fonts, appearance, layout or overall presentation. > This, in my opinion looks very 'flat'. This is simply due to the fact that the people who made the powerpoint slides didn't do anything to enhance their appearance. Powerpoint can handle all types of fonts and graphics. You can even use it to make simulated flash cards for self-study. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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