Guest guest Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 this presentation can now be viewed and heard on the PC. I have removed the backgrounds until I figure out the issue. Chinese Herbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 I found it was best to do away with all and any enhancement graphics to powerpoint and just present the words. And then put the graphics in where appropriate. I also think it makes a difference if you print out the notes on paper for distribution. I took this " minimalist " approach in a CEU talk I gave and then gave the web site where they could download the powerpoint presentation. That way they wouldn't have to take down all the notes as I talked. (Plus I was really pressed for time!) That seemed to work pretty well. See here at: http://hepchealth.com/lecture.htm I would like to see what the new apple programs can do. The trouble is what will they be good for? Are we going to be printing out full color notes for our students? Will they be accepted as pre-print book ready files? And how will they interface with web sites and files? (There is also the question of how much information we want to give students? I once assigned a very detailed formula book for a class - actually Al and YiQiao's book and it was so detailed there was nothing left for me to fill in... put that's another discussion.) As someone who has worked in graphic arts a little I know it's a slippery slope when you start making information look nice. They gotta look real, real nice or else they don't work at all or just interfere. I can also appreciate Todd's comments about the programs he needed to learn. One of my former students was saying that after a few years in practice he's had to be a writer, speaker, web-master, graphic designer etc... aww... the life. doug , " smilinglotus " <smilinglotus> wrote: > > , " " > <zrosenbe@s...> wrote: > > By arbitrary, I mean the limits of the Powerpoint format, not the > > material. The material is excellent. I understand that the learning > > curve for this stuff takes time. . . I haven't certainly caught up yet > > with Powerpoint! I was just trying to point out that every time I see > > a Powerpoint presentation on Chinese medicine, such as those at the > > Pacific Symposium last year, it looks exactly the same, with little or > > no variation of fonts, appearance, layout or overall presentation. > > This, in my opinion looks very 'flat'. > > This is simply due to the fact that the people who made the powerpoint > slides didn't do anything to enhance their appearance. Powerpoint can > handle all types of fonts and graphics. You can even use it to make > simulated flash cards for self-study. > > Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 I agree. It takes a lot of work to do something useful with programs like Powerpoint, I am just wondering as a teacher if it is worthwhile to go in this direction if it takes so much preparation time to do something 'minimalist', if overheads will do just as well, and if the technology (projectors) is so expensive and hard to procure. On Jan 30, 2005, at 11:57 PM, wrote: > > I would like to see what the new apple programs can do. The trouble > is what will they be > good for? Are we going to be printing out full color notes for our > students? Will they be > accepted as pre-print book ready files? And how will they interface > with web sites and > files? (There is also the question of how much information we want to > give students? I > once assigned a very detailed formula book for a class - actually Al > and YiQiao's book and > it was so detailed there was nothing left for me to fill in... put > that's another discussion.) > > As someone who has worked in graphic arts a little I know it's a > slippery slope when you > start making information look nice. They gotta look real, real nice > or else they don't work > at all or just interfere. > > I can also appreciate Todd's comments about the programs he needed to > learn. One of my > former students was saying that after a few years in practice he's > had to be a writer, > speaker, web-master, graphic designer etc... > > Chair, Department of Herbal Medicine Pacific College of Oriental Medicine San Diego, Ca. 92122 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 If you have the overheads already then it may not be time effective. I would agree that the school has to have the projector available but on the other hand it is neat to flip through the slides and also you don't have that fan buzzing away between you and the students. Also I think you can do a video out to a big TV if available. doug , " " <zrosenbe@s...> wrote: > I agree. It takes a lot of work to do something useful with programs > like Powerpoint, I am just wondering as a teacher if it is worthwhile > to go in this direction if it takes so much preparation time to do > something 'minimalist', if overheads will do just as well, and if the > technology (projectors) is so expensive and hard to procure. > > > On Jan 30, 2005, at 11:57 PM, wrote: > > > > > I would like to see what the new apple programs can do. The trouble > > is what will they be > > good for? Are we going to be printing out full color notes for our > > students? Will they be > > accepted as pre-print book ready files? And how will they interface > > with web sites and > > files? (There is also the question of how much information we want to > > give students? I > > once assigned a very detailed formula book for a class - actually Al > > and YiQiao's book and > > it was so detailed there was nothing left for me to fill in... put > > that's another discussion.) > > > > As someone who has worked in graphic arts a little I know it's a > > slippery slope when you > > start making information look nice. They gotta look real, real nice > > or else they don't work > > at all or just interfere. > > > > I can also appreciate Todd's comments about the programs he needed to > > learn. One of my > > former students was saying that after a few years in practice he's > > had to be a writer, > > speaker, web-master, graphic designer etc... > > > > > > Chair, Department of Herbal Medicine > Pacific College of Oriental Medicine > San Diego, Ca. 92122 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 I suspected it would take a lot of time to put together what you did, and your herculean efforts may provide useful experience someday. Here are my own observations of the industry, and why I've decided to hold off on any development of online audio-visuals, in addition to the purely educational-philosophical issues: MS Internet Explorer is still 90% dominant in the browser market. Microsoft, in its arrogance, has routinely and even intentionally violated international standards for browsers, and especially for javascript, which is why many things do not work except on Explorer browsers. Until this changes, Curt, my programming partner, and I have made a conscious decision to avoid all programming in Javascript and other languages that Microsoft has dominated, as the lack of standards makes any task 10x more difficult than it needs to be, especially if one wants to ensure compatibility for all platforms. Java is different, as Sun triumphed in a major lawsuit with Microsoft, and the latter has been whipped in the Java arena. Java seems destined to become the international replacement for C++, and both the Sun PC and Apple versions of the Java engine have improved greatly in the last few years, with both adhering closely to the standards. In a few years, if browsers like Firefox continue to shrink Explorer's share, then you might start to see uniform standards imposed once again in the browser market, making development of Internet audio-visuals much easier. Our CD-ROM Self-Study Course is written in XHTML, an international standard promoted as a response to the browser anarchy of the late 1990's, and to ensure compatibility with both past and future browsers, including those for PDAs. My own attempts to view your stuff will not be very relevant, as my Internet interactions are confined to obscure browsers on a firewalled ancient Mac, and fancy A-V stuff tends to become garbled. > < >Re: Re: Herbs 1 online > ---Roger Wicke, PhD, TCM Clinical Herbalist contact: www.rmhiherbal.org/contact/ Rocky Mountain Herbal Institute, Hot Springs, Montana USA Clinical herbology training programs - www.rmhiherbal.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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