Guest guest Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Roger We are using DMSA challenge with the urine tests. This should do it and is the standard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Alon, As long as you are doing HM testing of urine, you might consider the following: as many people with HM toxicity are likely to have some combination of Blood/Qi Stagnation as well as other patterns, Chinese herbal formulas that include herbs for this are likely to speed up the discharge of HMs via the urine and bowels. Practitioners I talk with believe that it is possible for urine tests without such a challenge to result in low or unmeasureable concentrations of HMs even though there may be HMs stored in connective tissue and bone. The blood and Qi-invigorating herbs tend to mobilize the HMs into circulation, which will also tend to aggravate the symptoms of toxicity unless one also includes some type of chelation protocol, either dietary, herbal, or otherwise. In summary, before-challenge and after-challenge testing of urine would tend to reflect the difference between circulating HMs and that which is bound up in connective tissues, providing a more accurate total picture. Roger > " " <alonmarcus >Re: Personality Types > >I, personally think that environmental toxins is probably a bigger >contributor and that people who live longer are accumulating or holding more >toxins, ie can cause more cellular damage. >>>>No question it is a problem but we still do not know with any confidence what is the true impact.I cannot except muscle testing (O-ring or any other version), EAV or any other electrodermal testing as sufficient evidence (although interesting and with time may yield evidence). Since we find environmental toxins in almost equal amounts in healthy and sick population (i.e. one can find evidence to support either argument) we are still functioning in a territory of belief.By the way we just started our study testing 3 popular labs for heavy metal urine testing. We are sending sample for 6 patients with split samples to each lab. Thus we will find if they have both inter and intra agreement. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 In a message dated 2/14/2005 2:45:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, alonmarcus writes: Roger We are using DMSA challenge with the urine tests. This should do it and is the standard Hi Alon, I agree this is a good approach to get an idea of body load. Would you mind sharing the dosage you use? Thanks, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 In a message dated 2/18/2005 12:33:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, alonmarcus writes: I agree this is a good approach to get an idea of body load. Would you mind sharing the dosage you use? >>>>Chris these are always based on body weight. I am aware that is the typical idea. Seems different people have differing mg/kilo. What I was really asking was how much DMSA do you use per body weight? Thanks, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 I agree this is a good approach to get an idea of body load. Would you mind sharing the dosage you use? >>>>Chris these are always based on body weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 Chris for testing we usually use one dose of 10-25 mg/kg- of DMSA kind depending on patient sensitivity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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