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Holly,

 

You seem like an intelligent person and so perhaps the teacher whe " took you to

task " was trying to get you to think, I don't know and will not try to take

sides beyond that.

 

However, in you first post you stated that you would not accept that " distention

is only a disorder of Qi " and in you latest post you are suggesting, if I'm not

mistaken, is what you were told is that distention in a qi vacuity.

 

So my first question is which are you confused about?

 

I would say that, in fact, distention is only a disorder of qi. That is not to

say that there are not other factors that follow the disorder of qi but from

where did they arise? If there is dampness present, where did it come from if

not from some disorder of qi?

 

In your latest example you are quoting Macocia in a listing of Spleen yang

vacuity signs/sx. Is yang not a type of qi? Was there no " simple " Spleen qi

vacuity prior to the Spleen yang vacuity? If you supplement qi with hong shen

are you not also fortifying yang? If you warm yang with fu zi are you not also

up-lifting the qi? And finally, if Spleen yang vacuity not a disorder of qi?

 

Just of few questions to help me understand what you don't understand........

 

 

 

 

 

 

Professor of Chinese Internal Medicine

World Medicine Institute (formally Tai Hsuan College of Acupuncture and Chinese

Herbology)

Honolulu, HI

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

, >

wrote:

 

>

> I would say that, in fact, distention is only a disorder of qi. That is not to

say that there

are not other factors that follow the disorder of qi but from where did they

arise? If there

is dampness present, where did it come from if not from some disorder of qi?

>

 

Thomas

 

Please cite sources, because it appears from reading strict definitions that

this is a

converse issue. distention, according to the PD, has no asociation with qi, per

se. It

merely refers to the stretching of the abdomen. Distention is a key sign of qi

stagnation

but just does not always indicate it. According to our chinese classical lit

expert here, he

concurs with the PD. but as I said, this may be semantics. but since numerous

texts of

mine list dampness and food stag as also causes of distention as well as liver

yang rising

(head distention), I think I would defer to Holly here. what she read clearly

called the issue

into dispute and it will notbe satifactorily resolved by just stating one's

opinion with no

further evidence provided either way. As for your contention that damp only

comes from a

disorder of the qi, it also comes from excess consumption of certain foods. But

again,

there is a semantic issue as all food and damp rx include qi movers.